Religion
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(11-13-2018, 06:18 PM)_Enzyme_ Wrote:
(11-13-2018, 04:42 PM)juicyorange Wrote:
(11-13-2018, 12:49 PM)Jan Wrote: Religion is the cause of so many wars and conflicts, it's bullshit.

Here I disagree with you, religion doesn’t cause wars, people cause wars. People’s interpretations cause wars.

Although I disagree with religion as a whole.

You're really stupid. Fact check before writing.

While Islam as a rule is misconstrued in the western world, maybe no other Islamic term brings out such solid responses as the word Jihad. The word Jihad is mistranslated as "Heavenly War". What might as well be called "Heavenly War" is harb-u-muqadasah. This term isn't found in any section of the Qur'an. There is nothing in the Islamic sources that allow a Muslim to battle against non-Muslims exclusively on the premise that they are not Muslim. 

The word Jihad originates from the root word jahada, which intends to battle. At the individual level, jihad essentially alludes to the inward battle of being a man of temperance and accommodation to God in all parts of life. 

At the aggregate level, jihad can take different structures, for example, 

1. Scholarly Jihad, which includes the battle to pass on the message of God to mankind and to battle social shades of malice through learning, astuteness and honorable talk. As the Glorious Qur'an says: 

"Who is preferable in discourse over one who calls (men) to Allah, works exemplary nature, and says, "I am of the individuals who bow in Islam"? [Al-Qur'an 41:33] 

2. Financial Jihad, which involves monetary measures, and spending from one's way to enhance the living states of poor people and the discouraged. 

3. Physical Jihad, which includes aggregate equipped self-protection, and additionally reprisal against oppression, misuse, and persecution. 

Consequently the idea of Jihad is tremendous and exhaustive. In fact, it's the last class of Jihad that is a reason for worry to many, and which we will investigate in detail. 

Jihad on the front line, in the Islamic viewpoint, is the final resort, and is liable to stringent conditions. It very well may be pursued just to safeguard opportunity, which incorporates opportunity of confidence. The Glorious Qur'an says: "To those against whom war is made, consent is given (to battle), since they are wronged;- and verily, Allah is most great for their guide;- (They are) the individuals who have been removed from their homes in rebellion of appropriate,- (for no reason) then again, actually they say, "our Lord is Allah". Did not Allah check one arrangement of individuals by methods for another, there would definitely have been pulled down religious communities, houses of worship, synagogues, and mosques, in which the name of Allah is celebrated in plenteous measure… " [Al-Qur'an 22:39-40] 

Also, the Qur'an says: 

"What's more, for what reason ought to ye not battle in the reason for God and of the individuals who, being feeble, are abuseed (and persecuted)? – Men, ladies and youngsters, whose cry is: "Our Lord! Save us from this town, whose individuals are oppressors; and raise for us from thee one who will secure; and raise for us from thee one who will help!" [Al-Qur'an 4:75] 

Along these lines the states of physical Jihad are unmistakably characterized in the Qur'an.

And you call me the stupid one? Stop floating around and do something useful with your life.
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(11-13-2018, 06:00 PM)Mr.SkarKasm Wrote: Why are you questioning that? God can obviously command stuff to do whatever, which means he commanded the animals to follow noah and not abandon him, just like the flies that you mentiend (and birds) Also since you might've thought about asking about how long did it take, but forgot to post it, remember that it is stated noah was 950 years old when he died, back then humans lived alot longer than us.

But ofc you are gonna disregard that because you don't believe in god.

Dumbest shit I've read on this thread so far.
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(11-13-2018, 06:54 PM)Jan Wrote:
(11-13-2018, 06:18 PM)_Enzyme_ Wrote:
(11-13-2018, 04:42 PM)juicyorange Wrote:
(11-13-2018, 12:49 PM)Jan Wrote: Religion is the cause of so many wars and conflicts, it's bullshit.

Here I disagree with you, religion doesn’t cause wars, people cause wars. People’s interpretations cause wars.

Although I disagree with religion as a whole.

You're really stupid. Fact check before writing.

While Islam as a rule is misconstrued in the western world, maybe no other Islamic term brings out such solid responses as the word Jihad. The word Jihad is mistranslated as "Heavenly War". What might as well be called "Heavenly War" is harb-u-muqadasah. This term isn't found in any section of the Qur'an. There is nothing in the Islamic sources that allow a Muslim to battle against non-Muslims exclusively on the premise that they are not Muslim. 

The word Jihad originates from the root word jahada, which intends to battle. At the individual level, jihad essentially alludes to the inward battle of being a man of temperance and accommodation to God in all parts of life. 

At the aggregate level, jihad can take different structures, for example, 

1. Scholarly Jihad, which includes the battle to pass on the message of God to mankind and to battle social shades of malice through learning, astuteness and honorable talk. As the Glorious Qur'an says: 

"Who is preferable in discourse over one who calls (men) to Allah, works exemplary nature, and says, "I am of the individuals who bow in Islam"? [Al-Qur'an 41:33] 

2. Financial Jihad, which involves monetary measures, and spending from one's way to enhance the living states of poor people and the discouraged. 

3. Physical Jihad, which includes aggregate equipped self-protection, and additionally reprisal against oppression, misuse, and persecution. 

Consequently the idea of Jihad is tremendous and exhaustive. In fact, it's the last class of Jihad that is a reason for worry to many, and which we will investigate in detail. 

Jihad on the front line, in the Islamic viewpoint, is the final resort, and is liable to stringent conditions. It very well may be pursued just to safeguard opportunity, which incorporates opportunity of confidence. The Glorious Qur'an says: "To those against whom war is made, consent is given (to battle), since they are wronged;- and verily, Allah is most great for their guide;- (They are) the individuals who have been removed from their homes in rebellion of appropriate,- (for no reason) then again, actually they say, "our Lord is Allah". Did not Allah check one arrangement of individuals by methods for another, there would definitely have been pulled down religious communities, houses of worship, synagogues, and mosques, in which the name of Allah is celebrated in plenteous measure… " [Al-Qur'an 22:39-40] 

Also, the Qur'an says: 

"What's more, for what reason ought to ye not battle in the reason for God and of the individuals who, being feeble, are abuseed (and persecuted)? – Men, ladies and youngsters, whose cry is: "Our Lord! Save us from this town, whose individuals are oppressors; and raise for us from thee one who will secure; and raise for us from thee one who will help!" [Al-Qur'an 4:75] 

Along these lines the states of physical Jihad are unmistakably characterized in the Qur'an.

And you call me the stupid one? Stop floating around and do something useful with your life.

That was a strong counter argument that proved my entire post wrong.

Ps. If you look closely at who I quoted and the context of my post, you can see that I was referring to juicyorange's post and that everything I wrote backs up your post "Religion is the cause of so many wars and conflicts".
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(11-13-2018, 06:00 PM)Mr.SkarKasm Wrote: Why are you questioning that? God can obviously command stuff to do whatever, which means he commanded the animals to follow noah and not abandon him, just like the flies that you mentiend (and birds) Also since you might've thought about asking about how long did it take, but forgot to post it, remember that it is stated noah was 950 years old when he died, back then humans lived alot longer than us.

But ofc you are gonna disregard that because you don't believe in god.

1) The human body couldn't have just lived 950 years back then.
2) For all I care, all statistical data shows that the lifespan of humans has doubled in the last century or two. Not the contary.
3) There is no evidence that Noah ever lived.
4) There is no evidence that all animals on earth ever went in a single ship(which cannot happen, since penguins would have had no way of reaching the Middle East and surviving there)
5) We have well-kept records of civilizations during the supposed "flood", and none ever mention it. (Shang dynasty of China, 4th, 5th and 6th Sumerian dynasties and Egyptian states)
6) There is no geological proof of a gigantic flood.
7) Jesus shares a lot with the Egyptians Sun God Horus:
7a) They were both born to virgins
7b) They were both born on the 25th of December
7c) Three stars appeared on their birth nights.
7d) They were killed bu later resurrected.
8) Maybe its time you face the facts: Abrahamic religions are fairy tales of Semitic peoples
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we are talking about god.

Nuff said.
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(11-13-2018, 08:30 PM)Mr.SkarKasm Wrote: we are talking about god.

Nuff said.

And what proof do you have of your God, exactly?
If you say the Quran I'll burst out laughing, thats like saying comic books prove Spiderman is real
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(11-13-2018, 06:00 PM)Mr.SkarKasm Wrote: Why are you questioning that? God can obviously command stuff to do whatever, which means he commanded the animals to follow noah and not abandon him, just like the flies that you mentiend (and birds) Also since you might've thought about asking about how long did it take, but forgot to post it, remember that it is stated noah was 950 years old when he died, back then humans lived alot longer than us.

But ofc you are gonna disregard that because you don't believe in god.

bruh. this shit made me lose braincells fr fr
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(11-13-2018, 06:00 PM)Mr.SkarKasm Wrote: Why are you questioning that? God can obviously command stuff to do whatever, which means he commanded the animals to follow noah and not abandon him, just like the flies that you mentiend (and birds) Also since you might've thought about asking about how long did it take, but forgot to post it, remember that it is stated noah was 950 years old when he died, back then humans lived alot longer than us.

But ofc you are gonna disregard that because you don't believe in god.

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(11-13-2018, 08:39 PM)Archer Wrote:
(11-13-2018, 08:30 PM)Mr.SkarKasm Wrote: we are talking about god.

Nuff said.

And what proof do you have of your God, exactly?
If you say the Quran I'll burst out laughing, thats like saying comic books prove Spiderman is real

Your mere existence is proof.

Nuff said.


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