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(04-02-2019, 10:15 AM)Jan Wrote: (04-02-2019, 09:51 AM)Agorith Wrote: You folks just need to trust those of us that have played trough the first banwipe.
Trust us when we say it is not the answer to the current state of FL.
Speak for yourself, I was promoted in the same month the split happened and it was no big deal whatsoever. You were promoted more several months later so how do you think you know so much about it?
It was no big deal back then and won't be a big deal now, unban everyone!
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(04-02-2019, 08:26 AM)DVN Wrote: So what I fail to understand is that with people already complaining that we have an inactive staff team, we then re-populate the servers with previously banned users that will cause absolute havoc. I'm almost certain that anyone that still comes on to enjoy the server will be pretty put off by that.
So people prefer to play on a dead server than a full one? I respect our opinion but I disagree with your points.
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(04-02-2019, 09:51 AM)Agorith Wrote: You folks just need to trust those of us that have played trough the first banwipe.
Trust us when we say it is not the answer to the current state of FL.
First of all, you were not even an admin when the wipe happened so stop acting like you know anything about it. Second of all the first ban wipe worked well for FL, yes maybe the first few days were chaotic but after the first bans, the players that stayed were the ones interested in returning to FL.
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(04-02-2019, 11:40 AM)Dimitris Wrote: (04-02-2019, 09:51 AM)Agorith Wrote: You folks just need to trust those of us that have played trough the first banwipe.
Trust us when we say it is not the answer to the current state of FL.
First of all, you were not even an admin when the wipe happened so stop acting like you know anything about it. Second of all the first ban wipe worked well for FL, yes maybe the first few days were chaotic but after the first bans, the players that stayed were the ones interested in returning to FL.
It worked well because of the split and the server had little players and the ban wipe brought people back
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(04-02-2019, 11:40 AM)Dimitris Wrote: (04-02-2019, 09:51 AM)Agorith Wrote: You folks just need to trust those of us that have played trough the first banwipe.
Trust us when we say it is not the answer to the current state of FL.
First of all, you were not even an admin when the wipe happened so stop acting like you know anything about it. Second of all the first ban wipe worked well for FL, yes maybe the first few days were chaotic but after the first bans, the players that stayed were the ones interested in returning to FL.
But I was literally here!? You hadn't even joined FL yet back then..
You're actually sucking random shit out of your thumb with all your statements.
How am I the one 'acting' here lmao
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(04-02-2019, 12:02 PM)Agorith Wrote: (04-02-2019, 11:40 AM)Dimitris Wrote: (04-02-2019, 09:51 AM)Agorith Wrote: You folks just need to trust those of us that have played trough the first banwipe.
Trust us when we say it is not the answer to the current state of FL.
First of all, you were not even an admin when the wipe happened so stop acting like you know anything about it. Second of all the first ban wipe worked well for FL, yes maybe the first few days were chaotic but after the first bans, the players that stayed were the ones interested in returning to FL.
But I was literally here!? You hadn't even joined FL yet back then..
You're actually sucking random shit out of your thumb with all your statements.
How am I the one 'acting' here lmao
In fact, I was a part of FL back then, now you act as you know so much about the ban wipe and about the chaos it caused but you were not promoted until end of January 2016, sure you were there when it happened but there was no chaos, about 5 bans were given per day back then which was pretty normal. You are trying to make the idea of a ban wipe so terrible when it is not.
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Even though I do not think a ban wipe is THE answer, I do not think that it will do much harm either. Speaking from experience, I was pretty bummed out when I got perm banned right before the first ban wipe, I was then un-banned and well.. Look at me now.
Some people will return, I think. Even if they do not return, it cannot do any harm. However, people who have broken serious offences (Hacking, exploiting, ToS in general really..) should still be perm'd.
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(04-02-2019, 12:00 PM)Arny Wrote: (04-02-2019, 11:40 AM)Dimitris Wrote: (04-02-2019, 09:51 AM)Agorith Wrote: You folks just need to trust those of us that have played trough the first banwipe.
Trust us when we say it is not the answer to the current state of FL.
First of all, you were not even an admin when the wipe happened so stop acting like you know anything about it. Second of all the first ban wipe worked well for FL, yes maybe the first few days were chaotic but after the first bans, the players that stayed were the ones interested in returning to FL.
It worked well because of the split and the server had little players and the ban wipe brought people back
Well, the situation is pretty similar if not the same. So since it worked well back then and brought FL back in life why not do it again. The ban wipe is the solution.
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(04-02-2019, 01:50 PM)Dimitris Wrote: (04-02-2019, 12:00 PM)Arny Wrote: (04-02-2019, 11:40 AM)Dimitris Wrote: (04-02-2019, 09:51 AM)Agorith Wrote: You folks just need to trust those of us that have played trough the first banwipe.
Trust us when we say it is not the answer to the current state of FL.
First of all, you were not even an admin when the wipe happened so stop acting like you know anything about it. Second of all the first ban wipe worked well for FL, yes maybe the first few days were chaotic but after the first bans, the players that stayed were the ones interested in returning to FL.
It worked well because of the split and the server had little players and the ban wipe brought people back
Well, the situation is pretty similar if not the same. So since it worked well back then and brought FL back in life why not do it again. The ban wipe is the solution There is a very big risk of doing this because if the bans get wiped then Minges will come back which is not very good on the other hand it will bring many more players to the game +/- support
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In my honest opinion, I couldn't give two flying fucks. If people come back to minge they can get permed again, shit happens
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