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12-01-2015, 12:13 AM
(This post was last modified: 09-01-2022, 01:04 AM by Fearless Community.
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Your name: hey dood
Your SteamID: STEAM_0:0:53367226
Your ban ID: 65213
Banned by: Ivan Tempski
Reason: Using cheats to bypass AFK
Involved: a (Doctor Internet was dragged on top of the roof as well but was not directly involved)
Why we should unban you:
I made a previous unban request: http://www.fearlessrp.net/showthread.php?tid=64267
On that unban request I had filled my post with tons of sarcasm because I had felt that I had been wronged in the situation so I will retell the story to the best of my ability in a proper manner. (Ivan if you could verify/deny the story's validity that would be nice)
On 08-31-2015 at roughly 9:20 am GMT I had logged onto V2D to play with some of my friends. I was on the side of the street next to the nexus and was waiting on my friend to come back from getting food when a different friend sent me a message on Skype which was a video that he had seen from Reddit. At this point I had hit my keybind (M1) and Alt+Tab which entered +left;+forward into the console and opened my previous window, Skype. I then proceeded to watch the video: (youtube.com/watch?v=9kzeHuhcXvo) After I had finished watching the video I pressed Alt+Tab again which brought me back to my Garry's mod window and then hit my Macro (M2) which entered -left;-forward into the console. I realized that I could not move and was being frozen by Ivan on top of the roof of the cafe(?) Ivan then brought up Doctor Internet who conversed with Ivan about how dumb I was and they then started to ridicule me for breaking the rules. Ivan brought Doctor Internet off of the roof and was telling me about how I was breaking the rules, I explained that I had looked over all of the rules and I had not seen one that said anything about typing movement commands into your console and that I hit the button purely out of reflex. He told me that I was in violation of rule 1.1 and that I was cheating by trying to bypass the AFK timer, I told him that that didn't make any sense to which he replied that it was an "unwritten rule" and that "people have been banned for this in the past". I continued to argue with him as he was basically mocking me and talking to me in a derogatory way and telling me that I was going to get permanently banned from the server, he then said "bye" and banned me for a day, which was extended by Grub to a permanent ban.
I do not feel that I was in violation of rule 1.1. Rule 1.1 states: 1.1 Using cheats, hacks or abusing glitches will not be tolerated.
(It is evident that I am being prosecuted for cheating and not hacking or abusing a glitch)
This is where I will be getting my definition: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheating. If you would like to cite another reputable source for your definition feel free.
"Using cheats" can be defined as: "Cheating is the getting of a reward for ability by dishonest means or finding an easy way out of an unpleasant situation. It is generally used for the breaking of rules to gain unfair advantage in a competitive situation."
"Cheating is the getting of a reward for ability by dishonest means"
I was not getting anything from this unintentional hit of a keybind I do not believe I was even on the server for a total of 15 minutes to begin with (15 minutes is the AFK kick timer). And typing +left and +forward into my console is not something that only I can do, it can be done by anyone who can open the console (~).
"or finding an easy way out of an unpleasant situation"
Sitting on the side of the street is no way unpleasant and by typing +left and +forward I was in no way getting out of the situation.
"It is generally used for the breaking of rules to gain unfair advantage in a competitive situation."
I was in violation of no rules according to staff members other than rule 1.1 and in no way was I receiving an advantage from typing these console commands into my console for a brief time (less than a minute).
Grub mentioned that he found it weird that I had these commands bound in the first place.
Here is a list of all the things that I type into my console for every source game I play. They all have their separate uses and these are the binds that I use for bhopping, muting players, making sure my sensitivity is always the same, etc.
My Razer binds (Razer Synapse):
M5: GG macro (types GG into "y" chat)
M1: +Circles (Enters +left and +forward into the console)
M3: -Circles (Enters -left and -forward into the console)
Console commands:
Sensitivity 1.5
m_rawinput 1
bind l "voice_enable 0"
bind k "voice_enable 1"
bind MWHEELDOWN +jump
bind i noclip
net_graph 1
(And a few others that I cannot think of atm)
A few staff members commented that I was "bypassing the afk system". If the console commands had been active for more than a minute while I was doing something such as contra farming then I could see the justification of that, but me moving in circles on the side of the road accidentally is not bypassing any system. If CodedBrain or whomever made the anti-afk system could comment on the AFK system and how it kicks players as most anti-afk systems require the mouse to be moved and not the character to be moved.
I do not feel that I was in violation of any rules. Thank you for your time.
Just to conclude a few points
Your SteamID: STEAM_0:0:53367226
Your ban ID: 65213
Banned by: Ivan Tempski
Reason: Using cheats to bypass AFK
Involved: a (Doctor Internet was dragged on top of the roof as well but was not directly involved)
Why we should unban you:
I made a previous unban request: http://www.fearlessrp.net/showthread.php?tid=64267
On that unban request I had filled my post with tons of sarcasm because I had felt that I had been wronged in the situation so I will retell the story to the best of my ability in a proper manner. (Ivan if you could verify/deny the story's validity that would be nice)
On 08-31-2015 at roughly 9:20 am GMT I had logged onto V2D to play with some of my friends. I was on the side of the street next to the nexus and was waiting on my friend to come back from getting food when a different friend sent me a message on Skype which was a video that he had seen from Reddit. At this point I had hit my keybind (M1) and Alt+Tab which entered +left;+forward into the console and opened my previous window, Skype. I then proceeded to watch the video: (youtube.com/watch?v=9kzeHuhcXvo) After I had finished watching the video I pressed Alt+Tab again which brought me back to my Garry's mod window and then hit my Macro (M2) which entered -left;-forward into the console. I realized that I could not move and was being frozen by Ivan on top of the roof of the cafe(?) Ivan then brought up Doctor Internet who conversed with Ivan about how dumb I was and they then started to ridicule me for breaking the rules. Ivan brought Doctor Internet off of the roof and was telling me about how I was breaking the rules, I explained that I had looked over all of the rules and I had not seen one that said anything about typing movement commands into your console and that I hit the button purely out of reflex. He told me that I was in violation of rule 1.1 and that I was cheating by trying to bypass the AFK timer, I told him that that didn't make any sense to which he replied that it was an "unwritten rule" and that "people have been banned for this in the past". I continued to argue with him as he was basically mocking me and talking to me in a derogatory way and telling me that I was going to get permanently banned from the server, he then said "bye" and banned me for a day, which was extended by Grub to a permanent ban.
I do not feel that I was in violation of rule 1.1. Rule 1.1 states: 1.1 Using cheats, hacks or abusing glitches will not be tolerated.
(It is evident that I am being prosecuted for cheating and not hacking or abusing a glitch)
This is where I will be getting my definition: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheating. If you would like to cite another reputable source for your definition feel free.
"Using cheats" can be defined as: "Cheating is the getting of a reward for ability by dishonest means or finding an easy way out of an unpleasant situation. It is generally used for the breaking of rules to gain unfair advantage in a competitive situation."
"Cheating is the getting of a reward for ability by dishonest means"
I was not getting anything from this unintentional hit of a keybind I do not believe I was even on the server for a total of 15 minutes to begin with (15 minutes is the AFK kick timer). And typing +left and +forward into my console is not something that only I can do, it can be done by anyone who can open the console (~).
"or finding an easy way out of an unpleasant situation"
Sitting on the side of the street is no way unpleasant and by typing +left and +forward I was in no way getting out of the situation.
"It is generally used for the breaking of rules to gain unfair advantage in a competitive situation."
I was in violation of no rules according to staff members other than rule 1.1 and in no way was I receiving an advantage from typing these console commands into my console for a brief time (less than a minute).
Grub mentioned that he found it weird that I had these commands bound in the first place.
Here is a list of all the things that I type into my console for every source game I play. They all have their separate uses and these are the binds that I use for bhopping, muting players, making sure my sensitivity is always the same, etc.
My Razer binds (Razer Synapse):
M5: GG macro (types GG into "y" chat)
M1: +Circles (Enters +left and +forward into the console)
M3: -Circles (Enters -left and -forward into the console)
Console commands:
Sensitivity 1.5
m_rawinput 1
bind l "voice_enable 0"
bind k "voice_enable 1"
bind MWHEELDOWN +jump
bind i noclip
net_graph 1
(And a few others that I cannot think of atm)
A few staff members commented that I was "bypassing the afk system". If the console commands had been active for more than a minute while I was doing something such as contra farming then I could see the justification of that, but me moving in circles on the side of the road accidentally is not bypassing any system. If CodedBrain or whomever made the anti-afk system could comment on the AFK system and how it kicks players as most anti-afk systems require the mouse to be moved and not the character to be moved.
I do not feel that I was in violation of any rules. Thank you for your time.
Just to conclude a few points
- I did not bypass an afk system because by just standing still I would have not been kicked
- The bind was not an intentional press
- I gained nothing from this incident and could not have gained anything if I were afk for longer. I had no contra setup I had no base, I was simply on the side of the road.
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Edward John Smith is my idol!
Some say that the Titanic would be a sinking ship, but it just left the criticizers at dock and hit an iceberg.
Original signature idea made by Grub edited to fit my account (Added this to abide by forum rule 3e.)
Edward John Smith is my idol!
Some say that the Titanic would be a sinking ship, but it just left the criticizers at dock and hit an iceberg.
Original signature idea made by Grub edited to fit my account (Added this to abide by forum rule 3e.)