Poll: What do you believe is the best course of action for FL to take with the current map situation?
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V2D
9.55%
19 9.55%
V17X
20.10%
40 20.10%
V4B1
70.35%
140 70.35%
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Community Map Vote
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(08-02-2018, 06:12 PM)Zombie Wrote: Really? V4B1? You people are freaking kidding me, there was a good reason why it failed and we decided to have a map change, it was terribly optimized, don't get me wrong, I love the map but at least I acknowledge and recognize the flaws of it. There's no way we should go back, I want to play with a decent FPS. The only way to fix this issue is to completely optimize the map and perhaps even redo the map which the development team requires different skills and different people, something that is beyond Pollux's capabilities. He cannot code, fix and update everything, he has some limits like any other human being. Remember that Gmod is a very old game with flaws that doesn't even use more than one core, the gamemode of CityRP certainly doesn't make it better, it's terrible.

I'm requesting Soulripper and SA to think carefully about it, listening to the community is great and everyone admires the idea of democracy in FL but it has some flaws. What if the community wants to add an RPG or something even worse? Would you still listen to the community and add something stupid?

Let's compare the community to a ship vessel, if you were going on a sea voyage, who would you ideally want deciding who was in charge of the vessel, just anyone, or people educated in the rules and demands of seafaring?

The staff team gives the community way too much power than it should have.

I feel like FL is going to have a map change every 2 months.
How do you know exactly what each of the developer's capabilities are? How are you able to say with certainty what Pollox's skills are and aren't? 

I think I speak for many when they that while V2D may be more optimized and give you nicer FPS it isn't fundamental to an RP server or more specifically Fearless. The kind of experience that the server gives each of its players is influenced by the map chosen to an extent. I dislike V2D because I think it is ugly, boxy and poorly laid out - Something I feel V4B1 trumps V2D on. I would prefer to have a map that feels more like a city and looks like one to. FPS are lower on my priorities I don't play FL like it is CSGO, I appreciate that isn't the same for everyone.

It makes complete sense for the community to be asked which map they prefer. To please the greatest number of players it makes sense to give them the option to choose what map they would enjoy the most. Your analogy with piloting some ship has no correspondence to the community being given a map vote. The fact there have been a high number of map changes also doesn't directly correlate with the community being given a vote or 'having too much power'  It isn't like they choose the rules and vote on who gets banned.

V2D Server -> Littletown A staff decision (It was like a week long event and then died)
LittleTown -> V5P Littletown didn't work - the community was given a vote and chose V5P. It was a success and lasted a long happy life. 
V4B1 server closes due to being empty all the time as the general FL population shrinks
V5P -> Chaos City The active playerbase shrank and V5P felt 'too small' to many 
Chaos city -> V2D Technical problems meant that chaos was not a viable option and thus the staff chose to change the map to V2D
V2D - ? We are back here, V2D was a staff decision to change the map

The community only had a vote on two of the map changes - don't blame them for the high frequency of map changes. I am glad that FL is making an attempt to please their players and feel they should have a say in what map is chosen, they are the ones playing it. But I do believe there is a better way of collecting the community opinion other than in a thread. 

Whether FL has a map change in 2 months time we will just wait and see.
Regards,
Finn Conlon 

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Community Map Vote - by Divey - 08-01-2018, 03:35 PM
RE: Community Map Vote - by User 12049 - 08-01-2018, 03:42 PM
RE: Community Map Vote - by Yonno - 08-01-2018, 03:42 PM
RE: Community Map Vote - by Luna - 08-01-2018, 03:42 PM
RE: Community Map Vote - by Pollux - 08-01-2018, 03:43 PM
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RE: Community Map Vote - by Pollux - 08-01-2018, 03:48 PM
RE: Community Map Vote - by Dimitris - 08-01-2018, 04:51 PM
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