UBR - memeSake
#1
Your name: [FL:RP] memeSake

Your SteamID: STEAM_0:0:22447309

Your ban ID: 76024

Banned by: AwestruckBullet

Reason: Powergaming - Changing to Merchant job to provide himself ammo, then changing job.

Involved: Just myself.

Why we should unban you:


First off... really Awestruck? Really? 

Here's the context... I wasn't sure what I wanted to RP as, and I became a Gun Dealer. While Gun Dealer, I purchased 5 pistol ammo so that I could defend my store. 5... pistol... ammo. I bought two doors, and posted multiple adverts to try and sell guns.

I didn't get any replies at all apart from one person who only wanted to buy a single galil - to which I said no. After getting no people wanting to buy from me - and I'm in a lazy mood and really couldn't be bothered to build a gun store, I changed to mechanic and started putting out adverts to fix peoples cars instead.

How do you think, Awestruck, that I only became gun dealer to provide myself with ammunition? I bought FIVE PISTOL AMMO. That's one shipment.. It's actually rather laughable. I even bought doors and put multiple adverts to try and sell guns.

I didn't just become gun dealer, spawn ammo and change straight away - so I don't know what this is really for... I tried to RP but nobody wanted it and I didn't feel like sitting around doing nothing and wasn't in the mood for building a shop.


So for this you ban me for three days?

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#2
Yes, really. I questioned you first of all for the Mechanic job. I join the server to see you viewing your own car, to which I asked you if that's all you changed to that job for. You respond with: "nah I didn't modify any of em - i'm just bored and not sure what to RP as". Which is fair enough, although I kept my suspicions. I then see you change to Gun Dealer. After flying around for a while, I decide to look up the log.



Spoiler :
v33x [18:53:25] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) has spawned as Gun Dealer
v33x [18:53:36] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) used command: inventory suit9 use 1
v33x [18:53:46] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) said: /me puts on a glorious suit.
v33x [18:53:47] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) used command: me puts on a glorious suit.
v33x [18:54:08] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) said: // Nope
v33x [18:54:28] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) said: // It's probably your PC - the server itself seems fine right now.
v33x [18:54:54] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) manufactured 5 Pistol Ammo
v33x [18:54:54] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) used command: manufacture ammo_pistol
v33x [18:54:56] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) picked up ammo_pistol - [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309)
v33x [18:54:56] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) picked up ammo_pistol - [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309)
v33x [18:54:56] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) picked up ammo_pistol - [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309)
v33x [18:54:57] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) picked up ammo_pistol - [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309)
v33x [18:54:57] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) picked up ammo_pistol - [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309)
v33x [18:54:59] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) used command: manufacture ammo_pistol
v33x [18:56:03] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) said: /pm 199 nah I didn't modify any of em - i'm just bored and not sure what to RP as
v33x [18:56:04] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) used command: pm 199 nah I didn't modify any of em - i'm just bored and not sure what to RP as
v33x [18:56:13] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) used command: door purchase Gun Store
v33x [18:56:20] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) used command: door purchase Gun Store
v33x [18:56:33] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) said: /advert Need any guns? I'll come to you. /pm memeSake
v33x [18:56:34] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) used command: advert Need any guns? I'll come to you. /pm memeSake
v33x [18:57:06] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) said: /pm 138 No sorry
v33x [18:57:06] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) used command: pm 138 No sorry
v33x [18:58:29] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) said: /advert Need any guns? I'll come to you. /pm memeSake
v33x [18:58:29] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) used command: advert Need any guns? I'll come to you. /pm memeSake
v33x [18:58:59] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) said: // tfw you have no idea what to RP as because you should be doing work but just procrastinating
v33x [18:59:05] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) said: What?
v33x [18:59:13] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) said: Sorry i can't hear you. I can't hear retard.
v33x [18:59:19] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) said: You're balt too you bleach drinking vagina.
v33x [18:59:23] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) said: .// bald*
v33x [18:59:37] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) said: Go fucking hang yourself.
v33x [18:59:42] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) said: Bye.
v33x [19:00:05] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) said: /door sell all
v33x [19:00:06] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) used command: door sell all
v33x [19:00:11] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) said: /door sellall
v33x [19:00:11] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) used command: door sellall
v33x [19:00:22] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) used command: team 14.00



After seeing this log, I teleport to you to see that you have no dupe set up, nothing. Only bought doors. Anyone could easily buy doors and send a couple adverts to cover up powergaming whether the infraction is big or small. You sold to no-one else, no transactions were made with anyone else.

On another note, when I primarily asked you about the mechanic job, you said that you hadn't edited your vehicles. Why did you spawn various vehicles of yours? 5 vehicles within the space of 4-5 minutes. This is why my suspicions had grown.
Kind Regards,

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#3
(02-13-2017, 06:36 PM)AwestruckBullet Wrote: Yes, really. I questioned you first of all for the Mechanic job. I join the server to see you viewing your own car, to which I asked you if that's all you changed to that job for. You respond with: "nah I didn't modify any of em - i'm just bored and not sure what to RP as". Which is fair enough, although I kept my suspicions. I then see you change to Gun Dealer. After flying around for a while, I decide to look up the log.



Spoiler :
v33x [18:53:25] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) has spawned as Gun Dealer
v33x [18:53:36] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) used command: inventory suit9 use 1
v33x [18:53:46] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) said: /me puts on a glorious suit.
v33x [18:53:47] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) used command: me puts on a glorious suit.
v33x [18:54:08] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) said: // Nope
v33x [18:54:28] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) said: // It's probably your PC - the server itself seems fine right now.
v33x [18:54:54] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) manufactured 5 Pistol Ammo
v33x [18:54:54] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) used command: manufacture ammo_pistol
v33x [18:54:56] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) picked up ammo_pistol - [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309)
v33x [18:54:56] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) picked up ammo_pistol - [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309)
v33x [18:54:56] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) picked up ammo_pistol - [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309)
v33x [18:54:57] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) picked up ammo_pistol - [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309)
v33x [18:54:57] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) picked up ammo_pistol - [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309)
v33x [18:54:59] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) used command: manufacture ammo_pistol
v33x [18:56:03] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) said: /pm 199 nah I didn't modify any of em - i'm just bored and not sure what to RP as
v33x [18:56:04] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) used command: pm 199 nah I didn't modify any of em - i'm just bored and not sure what to RP as
v33x [18:56:13] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) used command: door purchase Gun Store
v33x [18:56:20] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) used command: door purchase Gun Store
v33x [18:56:33] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) said: /advert Need any guns? I'll come to you. /pm memeSake
v33x [18:56:34] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) used command: advert Need any guns? I'll come to you. /pm memeSake
v33x [18:57:06] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) said: /pm 138 No sorry
v33x [18:57:06] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) used command: pm 138 No sorry
v33x [18:58:29] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) said: /advert Need any guns? I'll come to you. /pm memeSake
v33x [18:58:29] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) used command: advert Need any guns? I'll come to you. /pm memeSake
v33x [18:58:59] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) said: // tfw you have no idea what to RP as because you should be doing work but just procrastinating
v33x [18:59:05] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) said: What?
v33x [18:59:13] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) said: Sorry i can't hear you. I can't hear retard.
v33x [18:59:19] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) said: You're balt too you bleach drinking ***.
v33x [18:59:23] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) said: .// bald*
v33x [18:59:37] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) said: Go freaking hang yourself.
v33x [18:59:42] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) said: Bye.
v33x [19:00:05] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) said: /door sell all
v33x [19:00:06] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) used command: door sell all
v33x [19:00:11] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) said: /door sellall
v33x [19:00:11] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) used command: door sellall
v33x [19:00:22] [FL:RP] memeSake (STEAM_0:0:22447309) used command: team 14.00



After seeing this log, I teleport to you to see that you have no dupe set up, nothing. Only bought doors. Anyone could easily buy doors and send a couple adverts to cover up powergaming whether the infraction is big or small. You sold to no-one else, no transactions were made with anyone else.

On another note, when I primarily asked you about the mechanic job, you said that you hadn't edited your vehicles. Why did you spawn various vehicles of yours? 5 vehicles within the space of 4-5 minutes. This is why my suspicions had grown.

Basically, you've said that you've banned me from your suspicions.

It's not my fault that nobody wanted to buy from me. I was a gun dealer for almost 10 minutes. You really think I'm "covering up powergaming" to give myself FIVE PISTOL AMMO? Come on dude I find it hard to believe you're genuinely thinking that mate.

The rule is this: 9.7 Do not change jobs JUST to buy something from the market (this is powergaming).
I did not JUSt buy myself something and change. I tried to sell for just under 10 minutes and nobody was interested. 

And so what if I didn't put down a dupe? I clearly said in my adverts that I'd go to other people, because I couldn't be bothered to build a store...

Your own logs show me telling you that I'm bored and don't know what to RP as. You have banned me for a disappointing reason. Nothing against you mate but this really doesn't deserve a ban.

I didn't become a gun dealer JUST to buy something. That's obvious from my attempts to sell. You can't ban me just because I was unlucky and nobody wanted to buy from me, and I couldn't be bothered to sit around.

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#4
I am not at all saying that I am banning you off suspicions, as I have clearly stated my reason for banning you.

If you were unsure as to what you wanted to RP as, and changed to a merchant job such as a Gun Dealer, you should not have bought items for yourself.

Say I was you. I change to Gun Dealer, buy a couple doors and send a couple adverts. As you did. I then buy myself ammo, wait a while and then leave the job to the one I was previously. This could be seen as loop-holing in order to Powergame.

I will let this ban slide today, however I still want you to answer my previous question.

AwestruckBullet Wrote:On another note, when I primarily asked you about the mechanic job, you said that you hadn't edited your vehicles. Why did you spawn various vehicles of yours? 5 vehicles within the space of 4-5 minutes. This is why my suspicions had grown.
Kind Regards,

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#5
AwestruckBullet Wrote:On another note, when I primarily asked you about the mechanic job, you said that you hadn't edited your vehicles. Why did you spawn various vehicles of yours? 5 vehicles within the space of 4-5 minutes. This is why my suspicions had grown.

I don't know whether you have logs - but I guarantee I did not modify any of my vehicles once.

Plus - if I was only mechanic to abuse it, which is what you're assuming, why did I go back to mechanic and try to RP as it again?

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#6
Approved.
Kind Regards,

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