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07-09-2015, 06:12 PM
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You may remember an old Admin Abuse thread I made against Grub. It was turned down due to ample cover being provided, and no small firing holes being present. I took the loss and moved on.
Recently, another Admin Abuse thread was brought up which had these two points at the head of the entire claim, and with outstanding evidence to boot.
Here were two points brought up in my thread about what was not in the thread I provided. http://puu.sh/iT2rU/8789e25fa3.png http://puu.sh/iT2t5/faabb878f9.png
Here are the pictures from the recent thread. http://puu.sh/iT3dC/dd3b5a5c6a.jpg
Of course, Grub got off scott free, none of my concern honestly, but if I got denied for those two reasons, why when those two reasons were shown, was he let free again? What makes a base a Doomfort now-a-days?
I'm asking for a public announcement on what a Doomfort is, if THAT is not a Doomfort. I might need an example.
http://puu.sh/iT3Pc/f1b5d0ccf7.jpg
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This seems to have been cut from the rules unless I missed it.
Doom forts are not allowed. This means you cannot make it hard for the opposing force to raid you. (ex: mazes, having to crouch or jump over props, small firing holes.)
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07-09-2015, 06:56 PM
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I think we should better define things, though it is nearly impossible to detail every single instance.
Most things regarding a doom fort are different case by case. The example you provided isn't a small firing hole, it actually happens to be quite large in comparison to the firing holes on the PHX bunker prop that many people use for fortifications
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Thanks Nev for that clarification.
I'm mostly concerned about keypad placement. It states that keypads must be placed in a way to where the cracker has cover from being shot at. If the most recent thread had no problems, why was this okay then?
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07-09-2015, 08:54 PM
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Take it as good news regarding the AA thread as now you can build this: http://puu.sh/iT3dC/dd3b5a5c6a.jpg
And there is nothing the admins can do about it (as it's within the rules).
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07-09-2015, 09:02 PM
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Damn man you just took my idea
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(07-09-2015, 08:54 PM)RIC0H Wrote: Take it as good news regarding the AA thread as now you can build this: http://puu.sh/iT3dC/dd3b5a5c6a.jpg
And there is nothing the admins can do about it (as it's within the rules).

The bottom prop isnt pushed in the ground even a little as you can clearly see,isn't that unallowed?
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07-09-2015, 11:54 PM
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Keypad Placement:
When the keypad placed is in the line of fire, you must have it so that the individual is facing towards any opening(s) so that they are not at an unfair disadvantage (ie. Placing a keypad so that they must have their back faced towards a firing hole when cracking).
When the keypad is placed away from the line of fire, you are able to place it in any orientation as the person shouldn't be in direct danger when cracking.
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07-10-2015, 12:21 AM
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(07-09-2015, 11:54 PM)Nevy Wrote: Keypad Placement:
When the keypad placed is in the line of fire, you must have it so that the individual is facing towards any opening(s) so that they are not at an unfair disadvantage (ie. Placing a keypad so that they must have their back faced towards a firing hole when cracking).
When the keypad is placed away from the line of fire, you are able to place it in any orientation as the person shouldn't be in direct danger when cracking. Thanks for the official standing. The bottom paragraph says it must be so where the cracker has
cover from being shot at. The keypad is on the wall, rendering the cracker defenseless and coverless from the firing hole next to it.
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07-12-2015, 12:24 PM
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Yeah, you certainly have "moved on".
Anyway, just make the base reasonable and use common sense. Obviously 10cm wide gun holes and keypads facing the opposite direction are unfair to the raider. Unless its that, just use a damn molotov and stop complaining.
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07-12-2015, 01:03 PM
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The whole abuse and doom fort is issue is blown out of proportion
It's a simple box with large shooting hole
The defender will all always have the advantage as that the point of a defence the rule is to prevent over the top unfair defences
Also who cares about cracker
There is plenty of tools available to get in with our even using keypad
Molotov/beach
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