Reporting Killjoy.

[Eisenhorn]

To state my involvement I was one of the SRU officers involved in this RP and was with KJ himself.

To address your accusations:

- FailRP, being on the streets and asking people if they're resisting and beating them if they don't hear the answer they want to hear.

Ok so the police deploying a specialist unit for a situation that regular officers are not equipped to handle is fail rp in your book, asking people if they were resisting was a bit of tongue in cheek humour and a recurring joke, as the SRU is primarily an emergency response unit, we responded to a state of government emergency, there was a riot, multiple deaths resulting from it, and threats to the government, if you believe this is not serious I suggest you attempt to petrol bomb the White house, you would find a similar response i'm sure. as people seem to ignore warning shots, and police instructions we used stunsticks to deter them. Furthermore the SRU have all the powers of a regular police officer, if somebody acts in a hostile or abusive manner to us, we will arrest them.

- Propblocking infront of the nexus. It was not necessarily to propblock it. And I also don't see why that should be necessarily for the RP.

It makes logical sense to create a barrier whereby that protestors are not run over by wreckless driving, it would be failrp to ignore the safety of the protestors, I can't see why this was an issue to you, unless you would like to encourage mass vehicular homocide? It did not deny access to any important area and as you yourself stated the server was in chaos.

- Causing chaos on the server, although not massive chaos. But it wasn't an nice atmosphere as several people weren't happy about it. And Killjoy simply didn't care although it looked like it.

Hardly, we acted as a police response unit, the regular police were not equipped to handle that situation and due to anti government threats and talk, not to forget the actions of throwing molotovs at the government building, we deployed onto the streets to disperse the gathering crowd before a raid occurred. We used stunsticks as a less than lethal method to disperse the crowd.

[Enzyme]

From what I see from the evidence, it seems like people are provoking the SRU (something I know happens all the time, especially if you have a proper SRU team with staffmembers)

In the one video, you have one guy "going derp" over mic while running in circle with the HSRU after him instead of actually roleplaying properly.
Video I'm talking about: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fqbUY21IaI


In the next video, you have one guy who pulls up a crowbar at one of the SRU agents, and the SRUs quickly respond by hitting him down with a stunstick and it seems like they are trying to catch/arrest him.
Video I'm talking about: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSicmaAq0yU

From what I can tell, the SRU are doing crowdcontrol, and if anything; the citizens are breaking the rules by failRPing and such. I don't see any real problem with what was going on here. The reasoning behind the frozen props were explained and I don't see a problem with this.

[Weecow]

Requesting un-edited evidence that is collected into one recording, as the evidence appears to have been manipulated with through missing sound of important aspects.

As part of the report conduct, the regulations state:

Keep in mind: Fabricating or tampering with evidence with intent to mislead, and providing false statements is under zero tolerance - committing such violations will lead to a perm ban.

The sound? That's some weird bug in my gmod. These videos are in NO WAY manipulated. The sounds are an bug of my gmod and I can show that to you in anyway you want to. The videos are in parts because my fraps can simply record 30 second only videos. There is an massive amount of lagg in my recordings which I don't know where they come from. Again this is not manipulated/edited in anyway at all.

To support my 30-seconds limitation here you go: http://gaming.stackexchange.com/question...n-of-fraps
Aswell the last 2 videos are 30 seconds exact.


On Topic:

The government at the time was strict and with constant attacks executed towards police officers and the Nexus itself, we eventually had no chance of kicking it back at our Forward Operations Base. Approaching the escalating civil disobedience, we proceeded to disperse the public gatherings with force. The batons were used, as they're a softer measure than firearms or tasers.

Alright, I do understand the government was strict at the time. As the video displays Rawwzki was an "Dictator". About the batons used, as I said that isn't really the problem for me, they could get used for proper RP and softer measure that's totally understand able but by asking people if they're resisting out of nowhere and then beating them seems a little too much of it.

Protesters were rallying in front of the Nexus and were getting CDM'd in the process. The blocks were made frozen as an administrative measure.

Administrative measure to propblock the road? The CDM's are common in CityRP and we all know that but I've never seen an administrator propblock the road, also you should take administrative action towards the CDM'ers in that case. That's how I see it.

This I cannot agree with. People tend to get overly excited every time we try to do decent SRU (or similar) RP and start provoking law enforcement, for their own amusement. And to let them slide with it just to keep things quiet would've been poor RP from myself and my subjects.

Also, it's quite common that people provoke it and I completely understand that that was part of the case aswell. Although the public beating provokes them to get 'over-excited" and that's where it goes wrong, that's where the chaos starts to move in. Although it was not 'abuse' I could say that it was better if you did it some other way instead of getting people over-excited.

EDIT: Added this part ^

[Narc]

Requesting un-edited evidence that is collected into one recording, as the evidence appears to have been manipulated with through missing sound of important aspects.

As part of the report conduct, the regulations state:

Keep in mind: Fabricating or tampering with evidence with intent to mislead, and providing false statements is under zero tolerance - committing such violations will lead to a perm ban.

The sound? That's some weird bug in my gmod. These videos are in NO WAY manipulated. The sounds are an bug of my gmod and I can show that to you in anyway you want to. The videos are in parts because my fraps can simply record 30 second only videos. There is an massive amount of lagg in my recordings which I don't know where they come from. Again this is not manipulated/edited in anyway at all.

And how are you expecting us to be able to review the evidence efficiently enough to draw conclusions, when we cannot hear the majority of the chatter and key parts of the provided evidence?

[Weecow]

Requesting un-edited evidence that is collected into one recording, as the evidence appears to have been manipulated with through missing sound of important aspects.

As part of the report conduct, the regulations state:

Keep in mind: Fabricating or tampering with evidence with intent to mislead, and providing false statements is under zero tolerance - committing such violations will lead to a perm ban.

The sound? That's some weird bug in my gmod. These videos are in NO WAY manipulated. The sounds are an bug of my gmod and I can show that to you in anyway you want to. The videos are in parts because my fraps can simply record 30 second only videos. There is an massive amount of lagg in my recordings which I don't know where they come from. Again this is not manipulated/edited in anyway at all.

And how are you expecting us to be able to review the evidence efficiently enough to draw conclusions, when we cannot hear the majority of the chatter and key parts of the provided evidence?

Not, I provided the abuse parts. I simply not record everything as that's impossible to do so. What to do with this abuse report is all up to Soulripper, I am simply saying that I didn't edit any of these videos. I don't even see how you think I am doing that. Or why I even should. The scenerios are all explained and the videos provided were the most important scenarios which I recorded.

Added evidence against manipulated evidence:

21 Januari = 21 January
Gewijzigd = Edited
Gemaakt = Created
Dinsdag = Tuesday

Also take a look on the file name it matches up with the videos name.

http://snag.gy/11MO0.jpg

http://snag.gy/Hzv4g.jpg

http://snag.gy/DjTo6.jpg

http://snag.gy/7AY78.jpg

http://snag.gy/C1AdV.jpg

There you go.. Last edited and created. The Xvid part is just exporting to Xvid format to have a smaller size of the file itself. Faster uploading.

Also if you still don't believe me which I expect I can share a screen with you and show it to you more easy.

I fully accept that I get a warning for my reply since I'm not involved. However,

The sounds he got is from normal HL2 soundscapes. I hear the most weird things while playing the Evocity RP maps. Cracking sounds, sounds of empty streets. Horror sounds?!

I'm asking myself why he should add these sounds to evidence. What diffrence should that make to the evidence itself? Well, that is a proof that this video is 100% unedited.

Like I said in my Permban where I was banned for "hacking": Why does admins never search for what it could be or what is actually is before making a non-checked decision?

I'm making maps with Hammer. And course there needs te be some sound. However, after adding these soundscapes. I got the weirdest sounds in the game. Why do you guys trust a non-stable game and say that it is probably edited?

I like to see how you guys wonder the DDos attacks. No-Shit. Because most of the admins NEVER listen to player stories and making their own (player-uncommented) decisions makes players mad. Getting a false ban is the worst every admin can do.

I recommend to take a better look at this! Perform better.

Regards,
Mavis

So yeah that seems to be the problem with the sound. The soundscapes.

[Killjoy]

Let the record show: I never use SA powers to play any sounds to the server.

[Weecow]

I am totally not saying you did play them, I haven't written that in the accusations list, as I said that's on my side.

[Vauld]

Honestly, I see no abuse here... From an unbiased viewpoint, I can see how you could be slightly annoyed. But this is by no means admin abuse. Killjoy created an RP environment, and you didn't like it - That's the bottom line. Admins have the ability to create "RP Events" in which rules can be bent in order to better the RP of the server. Obviously, this is some sort of Police-State RP. If you didn't want to participate in the RP, you can leave the city, or leave the server. This is an RP server, and you should expect RP's. You are continuously arguing semantics, when really there's nothing to argue. If an admin is creating an RP and wants to block the roads with tanks, add fog to the city, drop meteors from the sky, open the labs to the server - He can. The mistake you're making is - you think that admin and players are equal. You're sadly, very wrong. We are trusted members of the community, who are nice enough to maintain the servers, and on occasion create RP events. The ratio to maintaining the server and creating RP events is 1000:1, we hardly create events. When we do, we expect that the server be responsive, and join, if not, you can leave the RP area or leave the server. So when we make an event, we are capable of doing things players normally can't. Why? Because we know what we're doing, we're trusted by the community, and by our team-members. So when we decide to give players the PRIVILEGE of joining our RP's, we are allowed to do anything we can, to allow the RP the best chance of success.

I think the main problem you have, is understanding that : Players =/= Admin... We're trusted enough to be in this position, and with that - comes the ability to create RP's, which may go past what normal players can do. No one forced you to be in the city, no one forced you to take place in the RP, no one forced you to be on the server. So there's really no reason for you to complain, in my opinion at least.

[Narc]

No abuse of power noted.

Closed.