Community Feedback 2: Electric Boogaloo

[JackZ]

If the only reason you play FL is to deal or bet on casinos. You're simply in the wrong place.

[Lewwings]

I have no gain from another banwipe, but I support it in a sense; if it is needed.

And for the love of fuck, a casino whitelist system is definitely needed.

[Pollux]

yes ban casinos, I have always said it’s illegal and a form of online gambling.

Except that there is no real currency being spent

It promotes gambling from a young age. Users can spend legal tender currency to buy money packs (credit) in order to gamble illegally if they are under 18/21 depending on jurisdiction and fearless does not operate as a betting house, but as a charity.

It isn't illegal at all as there is no functionality in place for people to exchange their ingame money for real money (and this is also against ToS which is enforced). This is the same argument most games with loot box functionality also use and in most countries it works (and it's also why Valve couldn't really mount a proper defence).
Is it unethical? Yes.
Is it Illegal? No.

I don't really get the sudden hate on casinos either, it feels like it's more being used as a scapegoat.

Note: I am not a lawyer, so I could be wrong.

[Envy]

yes ban casinos, I have always said it’s illegal and a form of online gambling.

Except that there is no real currency being spent

It promotes gambling from a young age. Users can spend legal tender currency to buy money packs (credit) in order to gamble illegally if they are under 18/21 depending on jurisdiction and fearless does not operate as a betting house, but as a charity.

Don't quote me but because you can buy in-game currency via Money Packs with real life money, I get the feeling that theoretically it probably is illegal

[Dimitris]

yes ban casinos, I have always said it’s illegal and a form of online gambling.

Except that there is no real currency being spent

It promotes gambling from a young age. Users can spend legal tender currency to buy money packs (credit) in order to gamble illegally if they are under 18/21 depending on jurisdiction and fearless does not operate as a betting house, but as a charity.

Don't quote me but because you can buy in-game currency via Money Packs with real life money, I get the feeling that theoretically it probably is illegal

Oh, I'll quote you cause what you're saying is wrong.

[Alertecobra27]

Finally some democracy

[Spartan_KCT]

As there were people talking about bringing old players back, I've tried to explain the reasons why l left. I hope this will help to gain some insight or possibly create some ideas on how to bring old players back.

Firstly, what bothered me the most was that it seemed like the staff didn't care at all about the community. I can't tell you how many times I've tried to reach staff over severall platforms but never received an answer. Unfortunately enough, I never had a feeling that they were there for me. Except for a few individuals. In my opinion, there's generally not really a connection between staff and players. Which could be a factor of the lack of roleplay recently. I believe staff should focus on promoting roleplay with mini-events and MASSIVELY support players who want to roleplay, both passive and aggressive. Connect with players outside of the group of friends around you, and actively assist new players in roleplaying.

In addition, the lack of acknowledgements / achievements for fun or good roleplays was something I did not like as well. There were numerous times I saw or hosted roleplays that included a lot of people. Roleplays that myself and others really enjoyed. However, there was never anything that you could receive in return (RPP were practically extinct). Now I know that people say that you should roleplay for RPPs or other achievements, but I disagree with that statement. Something that'll partly help solve this problem is better connection between staff and players. There have been some great suggestions for achievements. Which should be added as well in my opinion.

Furthermore, there were a lot of players that ruined the experience for everyone else. Both on the forums and ingame. These people were basically just minging around with no consequence whatsoever. The climate just became too toxic for me to enjoy the game. 

As well, some jobs could really use a rework, such as the mechanic, cook and gun dealer. There are some great suggestions on how to improve these jobs, which should be looked at. 

I really hope we will be able to turn the current situation around and go back to an enjoyable experience for all.

[Dimitris]

yes ban casinos, I have always said it’s illegal and a form of online gambling.

Except that there is no real currency being spent

> buy moneypacks for ingame money in order to gamble
> this could lead to gambling addictions, especially for those under 18 that are betting
> kids keep putting real life money into the server for an in game currency to gamble with

there is real currency being spent, it is real gambling.

Casinos should:

• Have a max bet price of 50k
  
• Rules added such as: /dice MUST be used on blackjack, dealer and gambler must be 18
  
• Only a single casino down daily - for a set period of time. This could be dealt with by people who are whitelisted.
  
• Whitelists for casino owners. Only 3-4 community members allowed to run casinos.
  

Or if you aren't going to do atleast a few of those things just ban them all together.
People are developing gambling addictions that will translate to real life.

Thank god i dont bet/ get addicted.

So from now on if I want to bet or run a casino I'll have to show the fearless staff team my ID. I agree with most of the rules you suggest should be implied other than "Only a single casino down daily - for a set period of time. This could be dealt with by people who are whitelisted." and "dealer and gambler must be 18". Let's not forget this is just a game and not real life.

[Awestruck]

Casinos are a morality issue, not a legal issue. You are not gambling real currency directly. The sole purpose of money-packs is not to buy credits or currency for gambling and neither is it encouraged. Winnings made in game cannot be "cashed-out" for real funds.

Morality, not legality.

[juicyorange]

Casinos are a morality issue, not a legal issue. You are not gambling real currency directly. The sole purpose of money-packs is not to buy credits or currency for gambling and neither is it encouraged. Winnings made in game cannot be "cashed-out" for real funds.

Morality, not legality.

If a user purchased money packs from Fearless which is operating as a charity with the intent to use the money packs (credit for casinos) to gamble and they aren’t over 18 then it is evidently illegal and on top of that immoral.