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Your name: [FL:RP] memeSake
Your SteamID: STEAM_0:0:22447309
Your ban ID: 76024
Banned by: AwestruckBullet
Reason: Powergaming - Changing to Merchant job to provide himself ammo, then changing job.
Involved: Just myself.
Why we should unban you:
First off... really Awestruck? Really?
Here's the context... I wasn't sure what I wanted to RP as, and I became a Gun Dealer. While Gun Dealer, I purchased 5 pistol ammo so that I could defend my store. 5... pistol... ammo. I bought two doors, and posted multiple adverts to try and sell guns.
I didn't get any replies at all apart from one person who only wanted to buy a single galil - to which I said no. After getting no people wanting to buy from me - and I'm in a lazy mood and really couldn't be bothered to build a gun store, I changed to mechanic and started putting out adverts to fix peoples cars instead.
How do you think, Awestruck, that I only became gun dealer to provide myself with ammunition? I bought FIVE PISTOL AMMO. That's one shipment.. It's actually rather laughable. I even bought doors and put multiple adverts to try and sell guns.
I didn't just become gun dealer, spawn ammo and change straight away - so I don't know what this is really for... I tried to RP but nobody wanted it and I didn't feel like sitting around doing nothing and wasn't in the mood for building a shop.
So for this you ban me for three days?
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Yes, really. I questioned you first of all for the Mechanic job. I join the server to see you viewing your own car, to which I asked you if that's all you changed to that job for. You respond with: "nah I didn't modify any of em - i'm just bored and not sure what to RP as". Which is fair enough, although I kept my suspicions. I then see you change to Gun Dealer. After flying around for a while, I decide to look up the log.
After seeing this log, I teleport to you to see that you have no dupe set up, nothing. Only bought doors. Anyone could easily buy doors and send a couple adverts to cover up powergaming whether the infraction is big or small. You sold to no-one else, no transactions were made with anyone else.
On another note, when I primarily asked you about the mechanic job, you said that you hadn't edited your vehicles. Why did you spawn various vehicles of yours? 5 vehicles within the space of 4-5 minutes. This is why my suspicions had grown.
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(02-13-2017, 06:36 PM)AwestruckBullet Wrote: Yes, really. I questioned you first of all for the Mechanic job. I join the server to see you viewing your own car, to which I asked you if that's all you changed to that job for. You respond with: "nah I didn't modify any of em - i'm just bored and not sure what to RP as". Which is fair enough, although I kept my suspicions. I then see you change to Gun Dealer. After flying around for a while, I decide to look up the log.
After seeing this log, I teleport to you to see that you have no dupe set up, nothing. Only bought doors. Anyone could easily buy doors and send a couple adverts to cover up powergaming whether the infraction is big or small. You sold to no-one else, no transactions were made with anyone else.
On another note, when I primarily asked you about the mechanic job, you said that you hadn't edited your vehicles. Why did you spawn various vehicles of yours? 5 vehicles within the space of 4-5 minutes. This is why my suspicions had grown.
Basically, you've said that you've banned me from your suspicions.
It's not my fault that nobody wanted to buy from me. I was a gun dealer for almost 10 minutes. You really think I'm "covering up powergaming" to give myself FIVE PISTOL AMMO? Come on dude I find it hard to believe you're genuinely thinking that mate.
The rule is this: 9.7 Do not change jobs JUST to buy something from the market (this is powergaming).
I did not JUSt buy myself something and change. I tried to sell for just under 10 minutes and nobody was interested.
And so what if I didn't put down a dupe? I clearly said in my adverts that I'd go to other people, because I couldn't be bothered to build a store...
Your own logs show me telling you that I'm bored and don't know what to RP as. You have banned me for a disappointing reason. Nothing against you mate but this really doesn't deserve a ban.
I didn't become a gun dealer JUST to buy something. That's obvious from my attempts to sell. You can't ban me just because I was unlucky and nobody wanted to buy from me, and I couldn't be bothered to sit around.
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I am not at all saying that I am banning you off suspicions, as I have clearly stated my reason for banning you.
If you were unsure as to what you wanted to RP as, and changed to a merchant job such as a Gun Dealer, you should not have bought items for yourself.
Say I was you. I change to Gun Dealer, buy a couple doors and send a couple adverts. As you did. I then buy myself ammo, wait a while and then leave the job to the one I was previously. This could be seen as loop-holing in order to Powergame.
I will let this ban slide today, however I still want you to answer my previous question.
AwestruckBullet Wrote:On another note, when I primarily asked you about the mechanic job, you said that you hadn't edited your vehicles. Why did you spawn various vehicles of yours? 5 vehicles within the space of 4-5 minutes. This is why my suspicions had grown.
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AwestruckBullet Wrote:On another note, when I primarily asked you about the mechanic job, you said that you hadn't edited your vehicles. Why did you spawn various vehicles of yours? 5 vehicles within the space of 4-5 minutes. This is why my suspicions had grown.
I don't know whether you have logs - but I guarantee I did not modify any of my vehicles once.
Plus - if I was only mechanic to abuse it, which is what you're assuming, why did I go back to mechanic and try to RP as it again?
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