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[Ducktard]

Involved: We can "say" whatever we want, even at your gate with weapons. As long as we don't actually initiate the raid by showing outright aggression by shooting, molotoving or keypad cracking, then no rules are broken. Your group initiated the raid as soon as you fired the first shot and it gave us a reason to raid your compound. We can stand outside your base with as many weapons or raid tools as we want, and say whatever we want so as long as we do not use them, which we didn't. By firing first, you ended up being the aggressors in this situation and gave us a reason to raid.