Richtea UBR

**Awestruck**

Quote:Whilst standing at farms shops i was approached by two players from the "Gucci Gang" base who held me under gun point in wide open public without reason. Whilst holding conversation with them i stated that they are making a mistake giving me a reason to retalliate.

As soon as fearRP was off (players looked away) I pulled out my tranquiliser, knocked one of the players out then retreated to a parked vehicle behind the red barn. This shows that i was trying to avoid killing players as the first resort and tried to avoid the conf;ict all together. Whilst hiding behind my vehicle i was tranquilised.

THIS GIVES ME A REASON TO RAID AS A CRIMINAL.

I do not contest that you had a valid reason to raid. You did have a valid reason.

Quote:A swat van approached, seeing my body they stopped. Once i recovered from the tranq i then held a conversation with the SRU Sergeant of whom i knew his in game character (close friends). He asked me to join the government force as a helper, to which i agreed. Rule 9.1 states that i need to change my custom job to suit the rp actions my character will take. So i changed my custom job accordingly to follow this rule. "Government Helper".

Once joining the government force we were issued commands to raid the property that the SRU had recently been taken hostage at. This means i also had a VALID REASON TO RAID AS A GOVERMENT HELPER.

Once the raid had commenced Awestruck bullet froze me into the air and began questioning, the whole scenario was explain to him by a multitude of players who watched. He proceeded to issue a 24hr ban for powergaming. I did not change job to raid, i was entitled to raid with either job, i changed my job to follow the rules of the server, for which i was punished.

The act of you changing custom job from 'CRIMINAL' to 'GOVERNMENT helper' was where I called Powergame. No Criminal would suddenly group up with the government, and vice versa (I'll get into that on BasicallyMental's UBR) especially in a matter of seconds after initiating a raid.

Quote:Attempting to speak to Awestruck about this event proved pointless as he continually dis-regarded every side of the argument that wasn't his.

Irrelevant and untrue

Quote:One question he asked was this: "Why would you change job to goverment if you could already raid"
- By me joining the goverment i secured the life of my own character through the route of backup and re-enforcment. My chances of survival and reaching the same victory with the goverment was much higher.

If you really wanted to have 100% chance of survival, you would have left the area and have the government fight them. By you, Criminals, joining them, you have conducted FailRP. Being a job that is against the government, to suddenly becoming a job that works with the government, especially when you have just initiated a raid by tranqing 4 people.

Spoiler: Logs

Quote:He also repeatedly stated that what i did was powergame, however was unable to show me a rule, definition or reason why that would be so. I had reasons to raid regardless of whether i changed my job or not, which means all i have done is followed the server rules down to every single smallprint. I fail to understand how i broke rules and Awestruck was unable to provide me wit ha good explanation of how my ban was legitmate.

Not all rules can clear everything up. Some things tend to be a lot more complicated than a simple rule. The current example for Powergaming, is as said, only an example. What you did was change jobs, during a raid, to gain a better advantage of winning.

Quote:During the sit a player was kicked for defending his own side of the argument with the reason "stop". This kick has no context as to what the player had said that was wrong, or whether or not he she was kicked just for defending his own side.

The player was kicked for saying "You're just nitpicking and being dumb" in an incredibly demeaning tone whilst I was trying to explain. I did not kick him because I didn't agree with his view. Find reference at 12:10 in your video.

Quote:As a criminal i had no intention of raiding, nor did i initiate a raid, nor was i on your property. You will find i was fully compliant with FearRP as i'm sure you will vouch for, however you placed my life in immediate danger, and my reaction to that was one of wanting revenge. I could have carried this out with the criminal tag, with the corrupt goverment and had full rights to do so.

As shown above in the logs, a raid was initiated and you had every right to do so. You did not have right however to suddenly merge with the government, as criminals, you are polar opposites.

You are trying to add depth to this that isn't necessary or relevant. Simplicity of it is, you changed your job from a Criminal to a Government helper, so you could work together in the raid. Any other time, Criminals and Government are opposite ends of the spectrum and would never work together. So why would it be any different now?

Lets say you were hired by the government, like a mercenary who is paid (which you weren't), I could sort of understand. However, you went from 'Criminal' to 'Government Helper' which is a huge leap which involved no Roleplay at all. You just had Strategic Response Units (or Deportation Officers), walk up to a couple 'strangers', assumed to be normal citizens in a state of fear for being shot at and they get asked to help raid. How does that make any sense? (this will be further explained in Basically's UBR). Had it been roleplayed more extensively, and not in a matter of seconds, during a raid, there would be ZERO problem here.

Just an added side note, you have been banned from Discord until 1:20AM tomorrow. I do not appreciate you insulting me behind my back.