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01-13-2016, 01:19 PM
(This post was last modified: 09-01-2022, 01:04 AM by Fearless Community.
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The player, Mike, is known as an outspoken person. If he thinks something is unjust, he will speak out and start a discussion about it. He will try to convince the admin that something was not justified. This might be getting on the nerves of the admins, but should certainly be tolerated. I believe that the freedom of speech needs to be respected. In a community, there are 'difficult' people to deal with. People that question facts, that collect evidence, that are against some team members. We should be strong enough to not get worried about that. The freedom of speech is a crucial thing and those who are having a different opinion should be okay. Look, I'm not saying the team is censoring people, this is just a reply on the rumours that Mike collects evidence and a reply on a similar unban request.
My summed up opinions regarding Mike:
- The last warning was given on the 'backseat administration' ban.
-> I don't think a last warning can be given for this rule break.
- He's an outspoken player, but should not get in trouble because of that.
-> It doesn't state in the rules that you aren't allowed to record admins and use the video material to prove a point. We allow players to record players all the time, so gathering evidence about an admin should be okay. I'm saying this just to clear this up. His temper can not get him banned.
- He's a good roleplayer in general.
-> He's been awarded 5 times for his roleplay. He's not a minge that blatently breaks the rules.
- The last warning does not make sense
-> Why does he get a last warning on his 3th ban? (ban 66911 was revoked) Why do other players get banned 13 times before a permanent ban is hand out? This is lacking consistency. Why would you get a last warning for backseat administrating, while other people get away with it for a day or a blacklist from OOC.
- The punishments given on this case are inconsistent
-> The other players involved got away with a ban for a day, while they have, apart from suggesting the idea, actively participated. Why is there such a gap between 1 day and a permanent ban? Bearing in mind that this rulebreak was not serious enough to use 'the last warning'.
- The rule break wasn't blatant
-> In real life, riot shield test has been done as well. We've got broken riotshields on the server. While they should protect you against bullets, they don't do much here. We can not assume that Mike was aware of this. The shooting after the damage was taken, was a rule break, however. Not only by Mike though, but by those who participated.
Sources used:
[Image: 4525657121.jpg]
STEAM_0:1:49343679, 15 bans before permanent ban
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_assembly
My summed up opinions regarding Mike:
- The last warning was given on the 'backseat administration' ban.
-> I don't think a last warning can be given for this rule break.
- He's an outspoken player, but should not get in trouble because of that.
-> It doesn't state in the rules that you aren't allowed to record admins and use the video material to prove a point. We allow players to record players all the time, so gathering evidence about an admin should be okay. I'm saying this just to clear this up. His temper can not get him banned.
- He's a good roleplayer in general.
-> He's been awarded 5 times for his roleplay. He's not a minge that blatently breaks the rules.
- The last warning does not make sense
-> Why does he get a last warning on his 3th ban? (ban 66911 was revoked) Why do other players get banned 13 times before a permanent ban is hand out? This is lacking consistency. Why would you get a last warning for backseat administrating, while other people get away with it for a day or a blacklist from OOC.
- The punishments given on this case are inconsistent
-> The other players involved got away with a ban for a day, while they have, apart from suggesting the idea, actively participated. Why is there such a gap between 1 day and a permanent ban? Bearing in mind that this rulebreak was not serious enough to use 'the last warning'.
- The rule break wasn't blatant
-> In real life, riot shield test has been done as well. We've got broken riotshields on the server. While they should protect you against bullets, they don't do much here. We can not assume that Mike was aware of this. The shooting after the damage was taken, was a rule break, however. Not only by Mike though, but by those who participated.
Sources used:
[Image: 4525657121.jpg]
STEAM_0:1:49343679, 15 bans before permanent ban
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_assembly
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