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10-13-2011, 11:31 PM
(This post was last modified: 09-01-2022, 01:00 AM by Fearless Community.
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Hey all,
I just want to say something in regards to the recent drama on the forums and server.. As you all know by now, recently Lani was promoted to admin again, and Toby was given an admin trial - This is all good stuff, we've been looking for admins and a group decision was made between everyone.
However, the occasion was somewhat spoilt by some posts on the thread which were subsequently removed, and a couple of permanent bans were handed out because of it. But I'll move onto that in a moment.
Now, I try my best to be a good admin. I discuss things with people on the server often and openly, unless it really isn't something you should know, which is rare. I'll give my opinion and speak to people regarding matters - I've had about 6 or 7 people all PM me on Steam tonight regarding today's events and they've all calmed down a bit, or felt better after I've talked to them. I try and keep the bans fair, and will often discuss the bans with the person in question if they are willing to, which will often get them forgiveness so long as they are genuinely sorry.
And the thing is, all of our admins are like this - This is why we pick them. If they weren't like this, I wouldn't vote for them, but I have. Every one of our admins contribute to the team in their own way, and are chosen because they will affect the server positively. When we announce the new admins, the threads are normally very congratulating.
However, I have recently noticed that this is not quite so.. There is becoming a bit more drama in these threads, and, to be honest, I think it's unnecessary. When Pechvarry got admin, a fair few people complained, and I'll be honest, I stepped down pretty hard with my somewhat satire post - Maybe too hard, looking back, but I'm not going to apologize for that, because it stopped the drama and let the thread return to its purpose - Being a congratulatory thread for Pechvarry. Now looking back, we can all see that he has done an excellent job, and that anything that was said against him was, to be honest, unwarranted drama.
Before I continue, play this video, it'll lighten the mood and help get my message across..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5MCn2juMS0
So, as I was saying, it was unwarranted drama. This happened again today, mainly during Toby's thread as he got the admin trial. A lot of people complained, and various things that were pretty unnecessary were posted. Things got out of hand, even, I'll be honest with you, somewhat on the admin side. People began to post worse things, and they were very quickly deleted by the admin team, which spiked more complaints and in general pretty much kicked the mood to the floor. A few people got banned due to this, and don't think I'm indifferent about that - I'm upset, as several of the banned were good friends of mine - And they will remain so. Being banned doesn't change my opinion of you as a person, many a people on Steam still talk to me after they're banned without the intention of begging for an unban.
So, people got banned, in particular one or two people at the end because they complained about a lack of free speech.. Now, I've already said that a few actions on the admin's side were perhaps over the top, but this, in my view, was not. Some things were posted earlier that, while people may say it was free speech or their right, honestly just would have incited a lot of drama, and make the mood of the server worse. They were removed with the intention of getting past the drama so we can continue smoothly as a community. We don't want to silence you, we just want to make sure that the forums and server remain clean and friendly, without drama.
If you do genuinely have a problem with a promotion or something, come and speak to one of the admins instead - I'll happily discuss it with you, and you won't need to fear any retribution. Several have already come to discuss today's new admins with me today, and they feel better after having done so. However, just posting complaints on the forums create drama, and lessen the mood, as I've said.
I was once, and still am, in a community on Minecraft called World of Minecraft - It used to be huge, the biggest community on Minecraft for over a year, and Notch even put 'Woooo worldofminecraft!' on the first survival client when it came out as one of the yellow texts. We were doing great, but unfortunately, drama hit and the admin team split into two - Both sides still exist, but neither are doing nearly as well as they used to, and the community was partially ruined. Since then I've tried to keep drama in communities to an absolute minimum, it only causes more problems.
So, that's why the posts were removed - It would've made the entire situation worse. We don't want to silence you, as I said, just come and speak privately to an admin, rather than try and incite something. I know a few people who didn't agree, but they didn't voice their complaints, but congratulated the people and then came to speak to me, and I eased their concerns about the situation, and there was no drama, or bans, on the server and forums.
To wrap this up - Please don't think that this is all some 'shut up' thing - I just want to keep drama to a minimum so that this community can continue to stay as good as it is, if not better, so we can all enjoy it, rather than spoiling it with constant drama. So, in future, everyone, please voice concerns quietly rather than doing something that'll cause drama - It harms the entire community.
Thanks for reading what I have to write
I hope you take into mind, feel free to add me on Steam if you have any questions.
Faustie
Server Admin
I just want to say something in regards to the recent drama on the forums and server.. As you all know by now, recently Lani was promoted to admin again, and Toby was given an admin trial - This is all good stuff, we've been looking for admins and a group decision was made between everyone.
However, the occasion was somewhat spoilt by some posts on the thread which were subsequently removed, and a couple of permanent bans were handed out because of it. But I'll move onto that in a moment.
Now, I try my best to be a good admin. I discuss things with people on the server often and openly, unless it really isn't something you should know, which is rare. I'll give my opinion and speak to people regarding matters - I've had about 6 or 7 people all PM me on Steam tonight regarding today's events and they've all calmed down a bit, or felt better after I've talked to them. I try and keep the bans fair, and will often discuss the bans with the person in question if they are willing to, which will often get them forgiveness so long as they are genuinely sorry.
And the thing is, all of our admins are like this - This is why we pick them. If they weren't like this, I wouldn't vote for them, but I have. Every one of our admins contribute to the team in their own way, and are chosen because they will affect the server positively. When we announce the new admins, the threads are normally very congratulating.
However, I have recently noticed that this is not quite so.. There is becoming a bit more drama in these threads, and, to be honest, I think it's unnecessary. When Pechvarry got admin, a fair few people complained, and I'll be honest, I stepped down pretty hard with my somewhat satire post - Maybe too hard, looking back, but I'm not going to apologize for that, because it stopped the drama and let the thread return to its purpose - Being a congratulatory thread for Pechvarry. Now looking back, we can all see that he has done an excellent job, and that anything that was said against him was, to be honest, unwarranted drama.
Before I continue, play this video, it'll lighten the mood and help get my message across..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5MCn2juMS0
So, as I was saying, it was unwarranted drama. This happened again today, mainly during Toby's thread as he got the admin trial. A lot of people complained, and various things that were pretty unnecessary were posted. Things got out of hand, even, I'll be honest with you, somewhat on the admin side. People began to post worse things, and they were very quickly deleted by the admin team, which spiked more complaints and in general pretty much kicked the mood to the floor. A few people got banned due to this, and don't think I'm indifferent about that - I'm upset, as several of the banned were good friends of mine - And they will remain so. Being banned doesn't change my opinion of you as a person, many a people on Steam still talk to me after they're banned without the intention of begging for an unban.
So, people got banned, in particular one or two people at the end because they complained about a lack of free speech.. Now, I've already said that a few actions on the admin's side were perhaps over the top, but this, in my view, was not. Some things were posted earlier that, while people may say it was free speech or their right, honestly just would have incited a lot of drama, and make the mood of the server worse. They were removed with the intention of getting past the drama so we can continue smoothly as a community. We don't want to silence you, we just want to make sure that the forums and server remain clean and friendly, without drama.
If you do genuinely have a problem with a promotion or something, come and speak to one of the admins instead - I'll happily discuss it with you, and you won't need to fear any retribution. Several have already come to discuss today's new admins with me today, and they feel better after having done so. However, just posting complaints on the forums create drama, and lessen the mood, as I've said.
I was once, and still am, in a community on Minecraft called World of Minecraft - It used to be huge, the biggest community on Minecraft for over a year, and Notch even put 'Woooo worldofminecraft!' on the first survival client when it came out as one of the yellow texts. We were doing great, but unfortunately, drama hit and the admin team split into two - Both sides still exist, but neither are doing nearly as well as they used to, and the community was partially ruined. Since then I've tried to keep drama in communities to an absolute minimum, it only causes more problems.
So, that's why the posts were removed - It would've made the entire situation worse. We don't want to silence you, as I said, just come and speak privately to an admin, rather than try and incite something. I know a few people who didn't agree, but they didn't voice their complaints, but congratulated the people and then came to speak to me, and I eased their concerns about the situation, and there was no drama, or bans, on the server and forums.
To wrap this up - Please don't think that this is all some 'shut up' thing - I just want to keep drama to a minimum so that this community can continue to stay as good as it is, if not better, so we can all enjoy it, rather than spoiling it with constant drama. So, in future, everyone, please voice concerns quietly rather than doing something that'll cause drama - It harms the entire community.
Thanks for reading what I have to write
I hope you take into mind, feel free to add me on Steam if you have any questions.Faustie
Server Admin