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05-27-2015, 05:19 PM
(This post was last modified: 09-01-2022, 01:04 AM by Fearless Community.
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(05-27-2015, 05:10 PM)General Rickets Wrote:I'm happy you've had this conversation with the President, and that the private messages weren't a fabrication. I'm glad you appreciated the roleplay from myself as well.Quote:v33x [18:08:43] [FL] General Rickets (STEAM_0:1:65599084) said: /request We have a hostage do not shoot.Our and some of the presidents conversation.
v33x [18:10:58] [FL] General Rickets (STEAM_0:1:65599084) said: /request You are not responding are you eh?
v33x [18:11:07] [FL] General Rickets (STEAM_0:1:65599084) said: /request I recommend you do so.
v33x [18:12:15] [FL] General Rickets (STEAM_0:1:65599084) said: .//I like this sru sgt
v33x [18:13:34] [FL] General Rickets (STEAM_0:1:65599084) said: /pm Alread We need you to respond.
v33x [18:14:02] [FL] General Rickets (STEAM_0:1:65599084) said: /r Hostage situation takes priority
v33x [18:14:28] [FL] General Rickets (STEAM_0:1:65599084) said: /r All we want is a meeting. you will then be given the swats life
v33x [18:14:43] [FL] General Rickets (STEAM_0:1:65599084) said: /r We wanted a peacefull meeting but thank your SGT for this slaughter
v33x [18:14:48] [FL] General Rickets (STEAM_0:1:65599084) said: /r Yes face to face
v33x [18:15:01] [FL] General Rickets (STEAM_0:1:65599084) said: //can yall stop spamming the fkn elevator
v33x [18:15:03] [FL] General Rickets (STEAM_0:1:65599084) said: //like wtf
v33x [18:16:06] [FL] General Rickets (STEAM_0:1:65599084) said: /r We only want this meeting no guns, no fighting.
v33x [18:16:40] [FL] General Rickets (STEAM_0:1:65599084) said: /r Ill have you know that we walked in and tried to organise one however we were refused and threatened.
v33x [18:17:18] [FL] General Rickets (STEAM_0:1:65599084) said: /r I dont believe you. I think you are just stalling.
v33x [18:17:42] [FL] General Rickets (STEAM_0:1:65599084) said: //why xant one just get a fkn meeting with the pres these days
v33x [18:18:47] [FL:RP] Nihl (STEAM_0:0:46381033) said: /pm Rickets The swat made up tactis about flashing then moving in. They're coming up now.
v33x [18:18:54] [FL] General Rickets (STEAM_0:1:65599084) said: /r I still do not believe you. I have been tipped off that you are assualting us.
v33x [18:18:59] [FL] General Rickets (STEAM_0:1:65599084) said: /r We know the plan.
v33x [18:19:17] [FL:RP] Nihl (STEAM_0:0:46381033) said: /r Assaulting you? In what way?
v33x [18:19:32] [FL] General Rickets (STEAM_0:1:65599084) said: /pm already I still do not believe you. I have been tipped off that you are assualting us.
v33x [18:19:38] [FL] General Rickets (STEAM_0:1:65599084) said: /pm already We know the plan.
v33x [18:19:49] [FL] General Rickets (STEAM_0:1:65599084) said: /r I know that too
v33x [18:20:09] [FL] General Rickets (STEAM_0:1:65599084) said: /holster
v33x [18:20:15] [FL] General Rickets (STEAM_0:1:65599084) said: /me holsters the weapon.
v33x [18:20:29] [FL:RP] Nihl (STEAM_0:0:46381033) said: /pm Rickets 4 swat one cop - still discussing.
v33x [18:20:37] [FL] General Rickets (STEAM_0:1:65599084) said: /cradio 10-4
v33x [18:21:17] [FL] General Rickets (STEAM_0:1:65599084) said: /cradio 10-4
v33x [18:21:33] [FL:RP] Nihl (STEAM_0:0:46381033) said: /r Alote more reinforcements. Hired guns I'm guessing.
v33x [18:21:44] [FL:RP] Nihl (STEAM_0:0:46381033) said: /r 2-3 guys.
v33x [18:21:47] [FL] General Rickets (STEAM_0:1:65599084) said: /pm already Come up alone. I do not want your hired goons up here.
v33x [18:22:05] [FL] General Rickets (STEAM_0:1:65599084) has used 1 Fish
v33x [18:22:21] [FL] General Rickets (STEAM_0:1:65599084) said: /request We aint dumb. Im not walking into a trap.
v33x [18:23:10] [FL:RP] Nihl (STEAM_0:0:46381033) said: /r If you're making a deal - they're going to trap ya.
v33x [18:23:29] [FL:RP] Nihl (STEAM_0:0:46381033) said: /r Something about a flank with a flashbang.
v33x [18:23:34] [FL] General Rickets (STEAM_0:1:65599084) said: /pm already We have someone listening to your every word. We know your plan. We know of the trap.
v33x [18:23:51] [FL] General Rickets (STEAM_0:1:65599084) said: /pm already We know of the flank
v33x [18:24:04] [FL:RP] Nihl (STEAM_0:0:46381033) said: /r They're going to make ya feel safe and lead you away. So they can kill you.
v33x [18:24:19] [FL] General Rickets (STEAM_0:1:65599084) said: /pm already You are going to lead us away and then kill us.
v33x [18:24:24] [FL] General Rickets (STEAM_0:1:65599084) said: /pm already We aint dumb
v33x [18:25:38] [FL:RP] Nihl (STEAM_0:0:46381033) said: None of your bussines.
v33x [18:26:03] [FL] General Rickets (STEAM_0:1:65599084) said: /r No you need to come up alone we have heard about your plans and schemes. Our trust is gone.
v33x [18:26:08] [FL:RP] Nihl (STEAM_0:0:46381033) said: /r They're going to seperate you. Or try to.
v33x [18:26:10] [FL] General Rickets (STEAM_0:1:65599084) said: /r We wanted a simple meeting but no.
v33x [18:26:16] [FL] General Rickets (STEAM_0:1:65599084) said: /pm already We wanted a simple meeting but no.
v33x [18:26:40] [FL] General Rickets (STEAM_0:1:65599084) said: /pm already You are goignt o try and seperate us. Not happening
v33x [18:27:07] [FL:RP] Nihl (STEAM_0:0:46381033) has used 1 Fish
v33x [18:27:10] [FL] General Rickets (STEAM_0:1:65599084) said: /r Hahahahahaha no we hear exactly what you are saying down there dont you worry
v33x [18:27:38] [FL] General Rickets (STEAM_0:1:65599084) said: /r All im going to say is we have a hostage here. You need to complay
v33x [18:27:42] [FL] General Rickets (STEAM_0:1:65599084) said: /r Comply
v33x [18:27:59] [FL] General Rickets (STEAM_0:1:65599084) said: /r No you are not.
v33x [18:28:25] [FL] General Rickets (STEAM_0:1:65599084) said: /r We have not got all freaking day. Hurry up.
v33x [18:28:36] [FL] General Rickets (STEAM_0:1:65599084) said: /r All we want is a meeting. Are you doing it or not?
v33x [18:29:00] [FL] General Rickets (STEAM_0:1:65599084) said: /r Well be quick.
v33x [18:30:14] [FL:RP] Nihl (STEAM_0:0:46381033) said: /r They're coming up soon.
v33x [18:30:22] [FL:RP] Nihl (STEAM_0:0:46381033) said: /r Making a choice now.
v33x [18:30:27] [FL] General Rickets (STEAM_0:1:65599084) said: /r Who is?
v33x [18:30:35] [FL:RP] Nihl (STEAM_0:0:46381033) said: /R The attackers.
v33x [18:30:47] [FL] General Rickets (STEAM_0:1:65599084) said: /pm already Do not send the attackers up.
v33x [18:30:53] [FL:RP] Nihl (STEAM_0:0:46381033) said: /r 1-2 security guards - well armed. 4 SRU and 1 cop (?)
v33x [18:31:01] [FL:RP] Nihl (STEAM_0:0:46381033) said: /r 2 cops.
v33x [18:31:14] [FL] General Rickets (STEAM_0:1:65599084) said: /pm already Not what im being told.
v33x [18:31:54] [FL:RP] Nihl (STEAM_0:0:46381033) said: /r SWAT are going back out the glass.
v33x [18:32:03] [FL] General Rickets (STEAM_0:1:65599084) said: /r Hmmm?
v33x [18:32:52] [FL] General Rickets (STEAM_0:1:65599084) said: //brb
v33x [18:33:02] [FL:RP] Nihl (STEAM_0:0:46381033) said: /r Cops are right at the entrance to the Nexus.
However, I'd like you to please explain how the SWAT team at the time - who had already made the plan - were supposed to be aware of your continued possession of the hostage?
As far as the SWAT team, Police Force and Security Agents involved with the takedown @ connectivity road were concerned, you had obliged the original negotiations to leave the hostage (equal) inside the Nexus Lobby, and leave the city. The President ultimately failed to alert the government forces that the hostage was still in captivity, therefore they were under the impression that the plan was "ago".
To summarise the bans issued, not just mine, I do not think - and I hope you agree with me - this was down to bitter rule breaking. I think it was down to:
- Lack of communication (President>SWAT)
It's clear to see from my point of view certainly, that this incident was not the fault of a trigger-happy government force or an incoherent mafia. As you had previously mentioned, RPPs were to be handed out, as the roleplay was certainly a cut above the usual hostage situation. This rule breakage, I feel, was simply due to lack of communication. Something that couldn't be helped by the party punished.