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12-17-2014, 04:18 AM
(This post was last modified: 09-01-2022, 01:03 AM by Fearless Community.
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Thank you Vauld all though I can not recall them spilling out of the building especially due to the fact that the location I was spawning them was not close to the door, I would just like to state that an official definition of prop spam could not be found, there seems to be nothing on the forums and I couldn't find one else where. But of what I did find people defined it as "spawning many props with intent on crashing the server". Also just being a part of fearless for a long time I would say it is also "spawning many props in public for minging reasons". In context of this event I would say that there was no intent to minge or crash the server, as well although 10 of the same prop, not an unrealistic amount. Also spam implies I spawned one after another in quick succession when in fact as previously stated I made an effort to make sure that no 2 fountains were spawned on each other, I realistically spawned them just to take up room, not cause a mess or server issues, as well this took place inside a locked building I was currently building a roleplay in. I do not deny it was silly and childish but I do not think in context it qualifies as prop spam.
I was careful and had no negative motive. It was even joked that spawning all these fountains "added" to the roleplay. Now it is apparent that the only looming accusation is the prop spam, I feel it is safe to assume that attempted propkill and disturbing others were not rightful accusations. and that we are only sitting on the fact that you believe it was prop spam.
I can assure you Rolorox, I have not been conspiring against yourself with any former or current staff members regarding what I have to say on this appeal.
Also, disciplinary actions are not issued based on popularity, so can we keep that aside the table? I still rest my case based on the UBR ruleset,
Now in terms of this I know you are not "conspiring against me" but I find it troubling that still to this day we have not talked one on one about this, it has always been through someone else. Always someone coming to ask questions.
You say actions are not based on popularity but that is not the point I was making, having someone tell you their side of the story should not be construed to merely a friend having my back to dodge a ban, it was not because of my popularity that they gave their story and that Weecow reneged on his, it was because it was the honest truth, I did not persuade their words.
Also and this is the biggest problem, you stated rule 4 of the UBR Ruleset. Yet the point I am making is I was not informed I broke a rule until I was banned without investigation. To which you might respond "spawning 10 fountains in a row, thats obviously breaking the rules" but in this context (which I can't stress enough) and the fact that I did not spam them but made a conscious effort to move placement between spawning of the props I would be unaware that it would be classified as prop spam to a certain party, which the only reason it was deemed as such was because of a still picture showing multiple props, not video, not timed logs showing them being spawned instantly after one another but a picture.
The point is I believe it was a harsh unwarranted ban because it was not discussed and without context. Anyone including yourself or Vauld could have just as easily said "look you spawned 10 fountains, this could be seen as prop spam".
Obviously you could bring up General Rule 5. Listen to an admin's Decisions, they are non-negotiable. But I just want justice based on fact and evidence. My respect for the administration is higher than you may think, but in this case I feel there just wasn't enough grounds to warrant a ban without consideration or explanation. Whenever there is a ban someone has to explain the scenario so that it can be seen as abusive or rule breaking and not just a misunderstanding.
This happened with a previous ban I had from Jamie, where a video someone took of me was edited to make it look like I was breaking rules. It is the same case. You can say someone spawning 10 fountains is prop spam if you just look at the picture. But other than being an idiot. I can not see how I broke a rule worth a ban, let alone all three of those reasons resulting in a ban lasting almost a month.
Again as I feel I must reiterate for the masses. I am doing this purely as a cleanse to start fresh, I have wanted to appeal this from the beginning although after the first failed attempt I did not want to try again until anger no longer clouded my judgement or reasoning.
If it is agreed upon that it is undeniable that I indeed broke a rule and the ban is appropriate for the scenario. Then I will not argue, but I am just fighting for my right for the facts and its the whole reason this courthouse was made.
Hopefully no hard feelings will come from this. I do it out of honest and total respect for this community and its staff.
I was careful and had no negative motive. It was even joked that spawning all these fountains "added" to the roleplay. Now it is apparent that the only looming accusation is the prop spam, I feel it is safe to assume that attempted propkill and disturbing others were not rightful accusations. and that we are only sitting on the fact that you believe it was prop spam.
I can assure you Rolorox, I have not been conspiring against yourself with any former or current staff members regarding what I have to say on this appeal.
Also, disciplinary actions are not issued based on popularity, so can we keep that aside the table? I still rest my case based on the UBR ruleset,
Quote: Wrote:4. Do not write an unban request if you know you broke the rules.
Now in terms of this I know you are not "conspiring against me" but I find it troubling that still to this day we have not talked one on one about this, it has always been through someone else. Always someone coming to ask questions.
You say actions are not based on popularity but that is not the point I was making, having someone tell you their side of the story should not be construed to merely a friend having my back to dodge a ban, it was not because of my popularity that they gave their story and that Weecow reneged on his, it was because it was the honest truth, I did not persuade their words.
Also and this is the biggest problem, you stated rule 4 of the UBR Ruleset. Yet the point I am making is I was not informed I broke a rule until I was banned without investigation. To which you might respond "spawning 10 fountains in a row, thats obviously breaking the rules" but in this context (which I can't stress enough) and the fact that I did not spam them but made a conscious effort to move placement between spawning of the props I would be unaware that it would be classified as prop spam to a certain party, which the only reason it was deemed as such was because of a still picture showing multiple props, not video, not timed logs showing them being spawned instantly after one another but a picture.
The point is I believe it was a harsh unwarranted ban because it was not discussed and without context. Anyone including yourself or Vauld could have just as easily said "look you spawned 10 fountains, this could be seen as prop spam".
Obviously you could bring up General Rule 5. Listen to an admin's Decisions, they are non-negotiable. But I just want justice based on fact and evidence. My respect for the administration is higher than you may think, but in this case I feel there just wasn't enough grounds to warrant a ban without consideration or explanation. Whenever there is a ban someone has to explain the scenario so that it can be seen as abusive or rule breaking and not just a misunderstanding.
This happened with a previous ban I had from Jamie, where a video someone took of me was edited to make it look like I was breaking rules. It is the same case. You can say someone spawning 10 fountains is prop spam if you just look at the picture. But other than being an idiot. I can not see how I broke a rule worth a ban, let alone all three of those reasons resulting in a ban lasting almost a month.
Again as I feel I must reiterate for the masses. I am doing this purely as a cleanse to start fresh, I have wanted to appeal this from the beginning although after the first failed attempt I did not want to try again until anger no longer clouded my judgement or reasoning.
If it is agreed upon that it is undeniable that I indeed broke a rule and the ban is appropriate for the scenario. Then I will not argue, but I am just fighting for my right for the facts and its the whole reason this courthouse was made.
Hopefully no hard feelings will come from this. I do it out of honest and total respect for this community and its staff.