Ban Request on [EIRE] Scumbag Jim , [FL:RP] DAD, Lirpsu, [EIRE]Scumbag Jack
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Quote:eulabius was on the mic telling Moon not to break in,
-KaiMeiuqer
Quote:You left out the fact that I was telling Moon not to raid,
-Eulabius

Video about the moments where I'm anticipating the first raid, this time with sound.


Things you can hear from the video:
-Gunshots (I assume pistol, p228 or usp)
-Banging of doors, trying to open door (you can see the handle going)
-Some really high pitched babbling (I listened this repeatedly really closely and it didn't have any information in it, just babbling)

Things you can't hear from the video:
-The things you two stated above


I'm going to gather in this post some of their main arguments vs. me and my arguments vs. them

1) Their argument: That they were not in intentions of a raid and my agression was unjustified against them.

My answer: Moon equipped lockpick, had it in his hand, it was quite obvious what they were up to, since they retaliated to the gunfire (they had equipped weapons ready) If they had won the gunfire, they wouldnt have called it RDM, they were crying wolf because they did not want to accept the fact that we beat them fair and square

2) Their argument:, in the second gunfight they didn't have intentions to raid

My answer: Moon was behind our door 6 minutes after his death. They came instantly from the spawn, back outside our door, they had equipped weapons (again, new ones). Why would they instantly come back ignoring new life rule if they were not up to revenge. Basically again they didn't want to accept the fact that we beat them within the rules of the game and tried to change the outcome into their favor. More crying wolf ensued in the OOC chat.

3) Their argument: When the cops raided us, I rdmd him in the apartments third floor.

My answer: They had died twice in the apartments 3rd floor This time they returned 7 minutes after their death, where they had now called cops to raid us (I'm not saying they wouldn't be allowed to, this just tells how much they were obsessed in beating us any way possible). They lurked behind us and I didn't have much trust in them after they had already tried to raid us twice.

After they had come blocking the stairs of the third floor, I shot him as a warning, not to try to block us and interfere the firefight we had against the police, Concidering all that happened before, they had ignored rules and shown large incitive on taking us down any way possible, they were far from being innocent bystanders as they told the patrolling admin they are) All this is seen on the video #3.

Their argument: I broke fear RP by shooting the guy who hostaged.

My answer: In the hostaging situation, they were not RPing in my opinion they were harassing people and trying to make trouble, while getting an approval from the president for only a little while, after the president understood he shouldnt have given them such power, he informed the people were not with the goverment anymore. I didn't have gun pointed at me, you can see this in the video #4, I only shot him when he had hostage rope in his hand as this can be counted as random hostaging situation, Most of the time I was behind his back and I counted that I wasn't in fear RP situation the same way as the people in front of his gun, If he wanted me to be part of the fear RP situation, he shouldve pointed the gun at me, and not let me be behind his back.


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RE: Ban Request on [EIRE] Scumbag Jim , [FL:RP] DAD, Lirpsu, [EIRE]Scumbag Jack - by Ryynirane - 07-14-2014, 11:18 AM

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