Ban Request - chocbar98

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I would like to indicate your flaws between your claims, VanillaTeaCake and your evidence.

Using this screenshot from your video, I can prove that your statements against us are flawed:

If your roleplay is genuinely ruined by someone picking up an obscure note left on a table

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It was left on the table the first time I entered the store. So far the only argument to this seems to be Scotch insisting that "it might not have been but we genuinely don't know"

"They yelled to stop as we got into our truck and left, as we were leaving the slums, we were greeted with automatic gunfire from a black market dealer with the job "'Fish merchant'".

-Well, in which case, why didn't you stop when asked if you were passively roleplaying and most importantly, why didn't you disembark from the truck when the shots (which was the equivalent of a full magazine) were fired in the first place? That is a clear circumvention of FearRP.

We did, otherwise I would have died from your "warning shot" of a full magazine. You claimed this firing of a full magazine at our truck was our warning. I don't think you understand the definition of a warning shot if you fire a full magazine at an unarmed individual. It seems almost as if this was an attempt to kill me, only foiled by the reduced damage I took from both being in the vehicle, and my distance from you when you opened fire.

Also fearRP goes out the window when you're opening fire on me, since you're attempting to kill me, at that point it's reasonable to take any measure I can to escape or fight back, since complying is no longer going to save my life.

In response to ilmon3y's claim:

It's considered RDM.

False. It was not Random Deathmatch. Far from random. Infact, if it were a term, it would be intentional, aggravated killing. (Due to the fact that you stole from a backstreet store, with ties to the Bermuda mafia, currently hostaging an SRU unit, due to the government's disrespect for the mafia.)

Again, there was absolutely no hint of any of this. You openly advertised as a fish store, welcoming people in, and there was no reason(other than metagaming, and still only in hindsight can we tell this) of your underground ties, the existence of these underground groups, or your hostaging of the SRU.

Our feeling is that, if it's considered RDM to kill armed police over arresting a friend, kill someone over insulting you, or theft of a minor object(such as a note, or a fish), then this should be considered RDM/overly aggressive roleplay.

Also, I'd like to point out you keep insisting that our video only shows have the story, but it's very clear it's almost identical to the first case we did not record(as you openly admit you fired a full magazine at my vehicle as your "warning"), and you openly welcomed me into your apparently incredibly dangerous underground store. The only difference appears to be that this time, the note was not as obvious, and you were far quicker in responding with the same amount of force(firing off your entire magazine at the person taking the note), which was probably far more down to your response time, rather than as a follow up to any apparent warnings given.

We were a fish shop and we were selling fish. He was a "fish seller" and I was in "Al Kebab". It wasn't an overly aggressive RP. You were the only ones that had ever made us pull a gun in this RP and it's because in RP terms our lifes were at risk had you got that classified document and you keep referring to it as a "note". It evidently wasn't just a note otherwise we wouldn't have open fired. We've got over 350 hours between us. We're not stupid.

In conjunction with Charlie's post, I would like to reinforce the fact that you were the only people to trigger any use of firearms within our roleplay.

To quote earlier, I clearly stated that:

During the roleplay, many customers had walked in, with the note tucked behind the desk, without having to mingegrab it, leaving the store with the impression of a suspicious (or 'fishy') fish store. It was only this one 'coincidental' occurrence, in which the note was stolen. You clearly aggravated the situation and resulted in your own death.

To the best of my knowledge and regarding your actions, you weren't there to roleplay. You weren't there to buy fish or black market goods. You were there to cause trouble and only trouble.

On that matter, earlier on in the roleplay, you were punchwhoring the door, and continued to do so after being told to leave. I have no evidence to support this, however this is clearly defined through Charlie's claim of "harassment" in which I can support as both an eye witness and a victim. I would most certainly define your actions as annoyance, if not harassment. Thus the theft of the note was conducted under similar intentions - to "troll" and harass.

The fact that you got yourself killed is cannot be blamed on mine nor Charlie's shoulders;

You clearly aggravated the situation and resulted in your own death.