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10-23-2013, 06:43 AM
(This post was last modified: 09-01-2022, 01:02 AM by Fearless Community.
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Dear Faustie and Killjoy,
I’d like to reason that it is both theoretically, and physically impossible for this case not to flip-flop between in character and out of character. We have been attempting to compile a list to the best our intentions to provide as Blackdog and other mentioned, “roleplay flare” to this case so that it can still hold an interesting roleplay situation. But even with the best of our intentions, it’s impossible to not jump back and forth between, IC and OOC.
Another reason we have chosen to flip-flop is thanks to the ambiguity of the case, and how it’s presently set up. With all the best intentions I’d like to list a few things in this case which make it impossible to continue it as a solidly In Character, or solidly Out of Character case:
- The fines against Dominic “Instinct” Stevens, and the Estleback Corporation have exceeded $2,000. As mentioned by Soul, the Fearless Rulelist, and the Rules Q&A 2.0, this is not allowed in Fearless.
Thereby this turns the case into an Out-of-Character issue.
- No actual IC roleplay involving the collection of evidence was ever proven to happen. We have yet to see any photographic or videographic evidence to prove it has happened.
This has created some skepticism that admin logs were the only things used to prove that these incidents happened. Which would fall under powergaming, as we cannot fight phantom documents that we have no access too.
- We have forwarded a request to prove that Kieran Mason had lost any money thanks to the joke made by members of the Estleback Corporation.
This request was never met, and thereby the only evidence of the incident, is word of mouth from Kieran Mason. We had to use the Clan RP rules to provide that the Hobbs Act of 1947, would not apply to the current case as Kieran Mason has never been proved to be organized under a brand name, clan, corporation, or otherwise.
- Several accounts and reports of the Ministry of Peace threatening the usage of admin powers have been noted. Ranging from threats of inventory wipes for not agreeing to pay fines, and to one of the actual visual evidence of Zaeed blackmailing us with the possibility of being banned for continuing this case. The exact quote of this, and an image are below:
http://i.imgur.com/M93sOCn.png
”.ooc if you want to pursue them I will pursue a case against you for backseat administration, either take it to a ban request, or stop trying to punish persons for rule infringements as you see them under in character pretenses.”
The Estleback Corporation and it’s employees are tired of being threatened, and bullied to pay things that have yet to be even so much as proven with videographic and photographic evidence. Estleback and it’s employees only paid the original fines because they felt cornered and didn’t want something that they’ve worked on for so many months going to waste in the blink of an eye[see: Blackwatch Corporation]
Our reasons for using IC and OOC in a marvelous cocktail is because we have an obligation to see the return of at the very least $321,000 dollars. The rules of Fearless, and SoulRipper have guaranteed us that we will eventually see the return of that.
In our current case, we cannot choose to step down one path, and expect to get anywhere. Had we stayed on the In-Character path, the Estleback Corporation would of been tossed aside for a backstory which allows the Ministry of Peace to essentially powergame its way out of every situation. If we had chosen to walk down the out-of-character path, we would of never won. We would have never been able to provide our in-character defense, and equally strengthen it with a defense that reassures us that every player of FL, admin or not, is looked upon equally within the FL Rulelist.
With kind regards, and hopes for a promising future,
The Legal Advisor for the Estleback Corporation
P.S. All though I am acting under an advisory role for the Estleback Corporation’s Legal Department, I am not related to any clan or organization on Fearless. I choose to help people because I believe everyone deserves to be viewed the same… In Character or Out of Character.
I’d like to reason that it is both theoretically, and physically impossible for this case not to flip-flop between in character and out of character. We have been attempting to compile a list to the best our intentions to provide as Blackdog and other mentioned, “roleplay flare” to this case so that it can still hold an interesting roleplay situation. But even with the best of our intentions, it’s impossible to not jump back and forth between, IC and OOC.
Another reason we have chosen to flip-flop is thanks to the ambiguity of the case, and how it’s presently set up. With all the best intentions I’d like to list a few things in this case which make it impossible to continue it as a solidly In Character, or solidly Out of Character case:
- The fines against Dominic “Instinct” Stevens, and the Estleback Corporation have exceeded $2,000. As mentioned by Soul, the Fearless Rulelist, and the Rules Q&A 2.0, this is not allowed in Fearless.
Thereby this turns the case into an Out-of-Character issue.
- No actual IC roleplay involving the collection of evidence was ever proven to happen. We have yet to see any photographic or videographic evidence to prove it has happened.
This has created some skepticism that admin logs were the only things used to prove that these incidents happened. Which would fall under powergaming, as we cannot fight phantom documents that we have no access too.
- We have forwarded a request to prove that Kieran Mason had lost any money thanks to the joke made by members of the Estleback Corporation.
This request was never met, and thereby the only evidence of the incident, is word of mouth from Kieran Mason. We had to use the Clan RP rules to provide that the Hobbs Act of 1947, would not apply to the current case as Kieran Mason has never been proved to be organized under a brand name, clan, corporation, or otherwise.
- Several accounts and reports of the Ministry of Peace threatening the usage of admin powers have been noted. Ranging from threats of inventory wipes for not agreeing to pay fines, and to one of the actual visual evidence of Zaeed blackmailing us with the possibility of being banned for continuing this case. The exact quote of this, and an image are below:
http://i.imgur.com/M93sOCn.png
”.ooc if you want to pursue them I will pursue a case against you for backseat administration, either take it to a ban request, or stop trying to punish persons for rule infringements as you see them under in character pretenses.”
The Estleback Corporation and it’s employees are tired of being threatened, and bullied to pay things that have yet to be even so much as proven with videographic and photographic evidence. Estleback and it’s employees only paid the original fines because they felt cornered and didn’t want something that they’ve worked on for so many months going to waste in the blink of an eye[see: Blackwatch Corporation]
Our reasons for using IC and OOC in a marvelous cocktail is because we have an obligation to see the return of at the very least $321,000 dollars. The rules of Fearless, and SoulRipper have guaranteed us that we will eventually see the return of that.
In our current case, we cannot choose to step down one path, and expect to get anywhere. Had we stayed on the In-Character path, the Estleback Corporation would of been tossed aside for a backstory which allows the Ministry of Peace to essentially powergame its way out of every situation. If we had chosen to walk down the out-of-character path, we would of never won. We would have never been able to provide our in-character defense, and equally strengthen it with a defense that reassures us that every player of FL, admin or not, is looked upon equally within the FL Rulelist.
With kind regards, and hopes for a promising future,
The Legal Advisor for the Estleback Corporation
P.S. All though I am acting under an advisory role for the Estleback Corporation’s Legal Department, I am not related to any clan or organization on Fearless. I choose to help people because I believe everyone deserves to be viewed the same… In Character or Out of Character.
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