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07-25-2013, 10:33 PM
(This post was last modified: 09-01-2022, 01:02 AM by Fearless Community.
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I find it hard to call this a 'civil discussion' thread when whatever actions the admins take will lead to a public lynching. The abuse thread in question was already closed and escalated for internal review without public interference, yet this thread was still created. I've already been contacted by many people about this thread.
"Close the thread!" We did that a couple of times, and then people abused and whined at us for it, so it was re-opened for further discussion. Perhaps we could just ignore threads like these, but then we'd get lynched too. Yet when we respond and tell you that if you don't have the evidence, we operate on an innocent until proven guilty policy, you also bash us? So we're supposed to hand out punishments based on feelings over evidence? Sorry, we need evidence. This thread really could just be deleted, but imagine the public backlash. I'm glad that in the end a proper admin abuse thread was made; Although you can discuss admins here, discussion on abuse topics such as these really aren't sensible ways to go about it. It leads to lynching of the admin team and butthurt for all involved in the end.
So, what can we do? Really, one easy way is to just casually wind down the thread while the proper abuse topic is dealt with. No, it's not totally professional to post the images we posted, I'll admit that, but it really generally tends to lead to a lot less backlash and public whining than any of the other options (apart from disciplining admins the public don't like at a whim because feelings>evidence). In short, it's far more sensible to post an abuse thread, even if you don't have much evidence than make a 'discussion' thread on abuse that'll just lead to a public lynching of an admin unless someone steps in.
Apologies if this all seems a bit mixed up, but this whole fiasco has lead to a lot of confusion everywhere. However, I can assure you that abuse cases are dealt with seriously, and the one currently involving Temar is now being handled internally to avoid further public interference.
Thank you
"Close the thread!" We did that a couple of times, and then people abused and whined at us for it, so it was re-opened for further discussion. Perhaps we could just ignore threads like these, but then we'd get lynched too. Yet when we respond and tell you that if you don't have the evidence, we operate on an innocent until proven guilty policy, you also bash us? So we're supposed to hand out punishments based on feelings over evidence? Sorry, we need evidence. This thread really could just be deleted, but imagine the public backlash. I'm glad that in the end a proper admin abuse thread was made; Although you can discuss admins here, discussion on abuse topics such as these really aren't sensible ways to go about it. It leads to lynching of the admin team and butthurt for all involved in the end.
So, what can we do? Really, one easy way is to just casually wind down the thread while the proper abuse topic is dealt with. No, it's not totally professional to post the images we posted, I'll admit that, but it really generally tends to lead to a lot less backlash and public whining than any of the other options (apart from disciplining admins the public don't like at a whim because feelings>evidence). In short, it's far more sensible to post an abuse thread, even if you don't have much evidence than make a 'discussion' thread on abuse that'll just lead to a public lynching of an admin unless someone steps in.
Apologies if this all seems a bit mixed up, but this whole fiasco has lead to a lot of confusion everywhere. However, I can assure you that abuse cases are dealt with seriously, and the one currently involving Temar is now being handled internally to avoid further public interference.
Thank you