There is no RP

[Holdem]

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Regarding the first post:

I know this is a dictatorship and all online communities are

I think stating that the community is a dictatorship is slightly exaggerating. The community, as all online communities are, are private ones, therefore the rules of the owner apply. Same as any bar you walk into, the rules of the owner applies; if he doesn't want people to smoke, you can't, thus doesn't mean he's a dictator.

We should all realize something. There is no such thing as real RP on Perp, DarkRP, or AppleJack servers. There is semi-RP which involves the mafia raiding people for their goods, people selling stuff on the side of the street, protecting the president, and other small RP events like that.

I have to agree with you here. As an Admin I could say that there is RP, but the truth is that when I'm around, everyone around me is at their best, either for the RP points, because they don't want to get banned or for any other reason, such as having a good impression of them. I know for a fact that a lot of people will pass on RPing things out and will just focus on one thing, whether it's protecting their contraband, following someone or doing whatever. They will ignore anything that happens between A and B.

An example just in case I haven't expressed myself well enough:

A person is going to buy a gun off someone. He accidentally runs over a person, but since he's already told this person that he will be there he ignores it and continues.

Every raid that happens is done because of trying to acquire contraband, or just for the sake of raiding.
Another fact is that most people seem to enjoy playing this way.

I agree.

The gamemode is structured to contrawhore to get the best cars and weapons. Why give us so many options for cars and weapons if the game was truly about RP?

I have to disagree a little here. It is true that weapons are cheap, that contraband is easy to make and ammo is easy to acquire too. But the gamemode is not structured to be made this way. CityRP is made this way so it's as realistic as possible. It has many food/items, contraband, vehicles, suits, jobs, etc. It's made so it has everything, but unfortunately people don't see it this way, and rather go for the "Money making" way, which is just contraband and raiding.

Then why is the server's owner constantly running around blasting his mic?

I've very rarely seen Soul do this, and I believe I have seen him online much more than you, therefore I have to disagree on this.

Remembering everything I just said, including the fact that if you make a base, you will get raided, why are people, including me, getting banned for playing the game the way it was designed to.

As I stated before, the game isn't meant to be played like this, it's people that decide they should play it this way. Personally I ban everyone that raids without a sufficient reason, which is 70% of the people. 25% get a warning because it's acceptable but shouldn't of done so, and 5% have got valid reasons.

I am the type of person that usually sits in a base and prints money.

Even though I agree that when you try to RP (If you're not an Admin), it's pretty difficult and frustrating. But, by staying inside a base and print money your chances of actually RPing drop a lot, and with a 95% chance the only "RP" you will come by is people raiding you, thus giving you the impression that people only do that, even though I agree some people only actually do that.

I decided today to go on the offense for the first time and steal someone else's money. I played the game the way everyone plays it, and I get banned for it.

As stated before, this isn't the way the game is meant to be played. Just because most of the people do it doesn't mean you should too and it will be okay. I understand your point of view, but I will stand my ground and say that your actions where not correct. It's like living somewhere where you are always getting mugged. One day you decide to mug someone and get caught by Police, then claim that's how life is meant to be in that area that you live. I apologize but I believe you acted wrongly here.

You can make the argument saying that because everyone does it doesn't mean you should. The fact is, it is IMPOSSIBLE to play this way.

I agree that it's difficult to RP nicely without anyone messing around, but just because some people break the rules and just act like idiots doesn't mean it's Okay for you to do so.

There is no real good RP.

I have to disagree. There are pretty good RP scenarios which most people ignore.
Also, by lowering yourself to other's people's standards, raiding without reason and just contrawhoring, you're not helping either. Don't expect good RP if most of the time you're just contrawhoring.

I got banned for playing the way these gamemodes have been played for years.

You got banned for playing the way rulebreakers have been playing for years.

Someone who agrees with me on the picture bellow. Not sure if his ban was legitimate, unlike mine.

I do not know the situation in which you where banned. I was not there hence I don't know what I would of done. For what I have seen though, you broke the rules because other people break them all the time and you think it's okay to do so, since you think that if so many people do it it's okay. I believe you have the wrong point of view here.


That's all for now.
Regards,
Holdem.