Andreas' demotion

[Dylan]

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Your reasons are beyond lacking. We should respect you? We should thank you? Your service was just soooo invaluable that we all automatically owe you so much?

No.

1st:
As I said, I am not against you or anyone else. All I am doing in this thread is arguing against viewpoints I see as fallacious or wrong (as I am doing with yours right now). One of your examples of your altruistic behaviour is, that you haven't taken a single dime for your work. Congratulations, Andreas. You just said we should thank you for doing a hobby you were free to stop doing any time. Administrating is NOT A JOB we owe you ABSOLUTELY NOTHING if you administrate the servers. I'm not saying showing gratitude towards administrators is wrong, I'm saying administrators expecting gratitude for their "work" are wrong. If you were to be given instant gratitude for administrating, it would have to be a proper job without pay, meaning ANYTIME we needed you, you'd have to be there. But of course that can not be demanded by ANY admin, because ADMINISTRATING IS A HOBBY. As I've said before, if you didn't get the administrator position, someone else just as enthusiastic as you, would probably have gotten it. Though they may not have been demoted.

2nd:
Your argument that you're one of the oldest members around should give you insta-credit is just wrong on so many levels I can't even grasp how you'd type it in. Your worth as a player, roleplayer and even person is, and should not be determined by your time on a server or life itself. It's even quite clear from your post, that you hold yourself in higher regard than many other players, probably simply even due to your longer time here. No wonder a person with that kind of mind, attitude and perhaps even narcissism would get administratorship removed sooner or later. It's simply a wrong way to think.

Again, before any admins get pissed at me, I do not oppose being grateful for your work, to some degree, I am grateful myself. It is, however, wrong for you to assume that this gratuity should come to you naturally.
Also, I'm not against you (Andreas) or anyone else. I consider myself neutral in this discussion, free to move wherever I want. I only chose to go against you in this case, because your argument was just.. Wrong. I take pleasure in arguing and pointing out fallacies, if you didn't notice.

How can it be possible that i'm not the only one who is saying that you are here to troll then, even some admins say it?

What's the point of accusing someone of trolling? If he is not breaking any rules you should simply not be angry at him, but instead how the rules are set up.