Where is FL lacking

[god]

Reply to Pollux: The objective of the thread is for people to discuss areas which they want to see FL improved on. I think the Map is a key issue as it limits aggressiveRP and disrupts passiveRP in many ways. I also think the guns are horrible and that this Kevlar update is unnecessary... both no one asked for!?!? Can you address that?

You need to take leadership in your decisions and not blame the direction of FL on the people. It’s like ‘you didn’t like the map but you voted that’s your fault’  but at the same time when people ask you to revert the weapons and Kevlar update you don’t but there’s a clear majority in vote??? It’s brain hurting tbh give me owner I beg divy

[RoCKy]

I agree in many parts to Pollux's statements. 

Something we must mention here is that the players are the ones who should make a better athmosphere on the server. We got so much content, many nice and funny players, etc. 
Some players don’t understand that it can be so funny actually on the server when you just roleplay with your friends. Maybe try out something new. We are a Roleplay-Server and thats what we should be happy of actually. Being able to be someone else and trying to roleplay with your own character. Not just shoot every single person down you see jaywalking or whatever. 

I have experienced so many situations where new content was never needed. We actually have everything we need to roleplay. Of course new stuff will keep us hyped. But let’s try to actually roleplay and have fun. I think that would be a good idea.

^Sounds strange to aggressiveRP players probably but it’s true. Try to actually roleplay as mafia or something. —> Thats what I call AggressiveRP. All the other stuff is just shooting down other players to have nice stats and because it makes fun maybe. However, this is not a DarkRP server or a Team Deathmatch server.

[Kpred]

I agree in many parts to Pollux's statements. 

Something we must mention here is that the players are the ones who should make a better athmosphere on the server. We got so much content, many nice and funny players, etc. 
Some players don’t understand that it can be so funny actually on the server when you just roleplay with your friends. Maybe try out something new. We are a Roleplay-Server and thats what we should be happy of actually. Being able to be someone else and trying to roleplay with your own character. Not just shoot every single person down you see jaywalking or whatever. 

I have experienced so many situations where new content was never needed. We actually have everything we need to roleplay. Of course new stuff will keep us hyped. But let’s try to actually roleplay and have fun. I think that would be a good idea.

^Sounds strange to aggressiveRP players probably but it’s true. Try to actually roleplay as mafia or something. —> Thats what I call AggressiveRP. All the other stuff is just shooting down other players to have nice stats and because it makes fun maybe. However, this is not a DarkRP server or a Team Deathmatch server.

I don’t know where to start but I think you should maybe consider the fact your idea of fun doesn’t necessarily match that of others? Approaching this from a very anti-aggressive RP prospective like you seem to have, doesn’t mean people cannot voice their concerns about the updates to guns or Kevlar for example. It also doesn’t mean they gun down everyone they see ‘jaywalking or whatever’.

Whether you like it or not, AgressiveRP is what most players get enjoyment out of. Just because your opinion of ideal AggressiveRP is playing as Mafia, doesn’t make any other form ‘shooting down other players to have nice stats’. The majority of good RP’s I have witnessed on the server that aren’t purely there for the RP points are ones that do generally involve aggressive aspects.

This might be a viewpoint from FL in the past, and don’t take it the wrong way but it’s generally always been the same, Agressive RP doesn’t equal bad role play or less server friendly. It generally just means you can’t aim and are annoyed about people killing you.

As for the other parts of the thread mentioned, I do believe a different map will be better, as will reverting the Kevlar changes. I preferred the old guns but they did have their flaws but you can’t please everyone.

[Abodigamer]

WE WANT EVOCITY BACK !

Give us what we want

[Pollux]

I agree in many parts to Pollux's statements. 

Something we must mention here is that the players are the ones who should make a better athmosphere on the server. We got so much content, many nice and funny players, etc. 
Some players don’t understand that it can be so funny actually on the server when you just roleplay with your friends. Maybe try out something new. We are a Roleplay-Server and thats what we should be happy of actually. Being able to be someone else and trying to roleplay with your own character. Not just shoot every single person down you see jaywalking or whatever. 

I have experienced so many situations where new content was never needed. We actually have everything we need to roleplay. Of course new stuff will keep us hyped. But let’s try to actually roleplay and have fun. I think that would be a good idea.

^Sounds strange to aggressiveRP players probably but it’s true. Try to actually roleplay as mafia or something. —> Thats what I call AggressiveRP. All the other stuff is just shooting down other players to have nice stats and because it makes fun maybe. However, this is not a DarkRP server or a Team Deathmatch server.

I don’t know where to start but I think you should maybe consider the fact your idea of fun doesn’t necessarily match that of others? Approaching this from a very anti-aggressive RP prospective like you seem to have, doesn’t mean people cannot voice their concerns about the updates to guns or Kevlar for example. It also doesn’t mean they gun down everyone they see ‘jaywalking or whatever’.

Whether you like it or not, AgressiveRP is what most players get enjoyment out of. Just because your opinion of ideal AggressiveRP is playing as Mafia, doesn’t make any other form ‘shooting down other players to have nice stats’. The majority of good RP’s I have witnessed on the server that aren’t purely there for the RP points are ones that do generally involve aggressive aspects.

This might be a viewpoint from FL in the past, and don’t take it the wrong way but it’s generally always been the same, Agressive RP doesn’t equal bad role play or less server friendly. It generally just means you can’t aim and are annoyed about people killing you.

As for the other parts of the thread mentioned, I do believe a different map will be better, as will reverting the Kevlar changes.  I preferred the old guns but they did have their flaws but you can’t please everyone.

People aren't anti aggRP, they're just against the people who treat the server as a TDM because it comes at the cost of ruining the fun of everyone else on the server. It has become a lot worse than what I remember years back and likely different than what you remember too. It also doesn't help that a lot of those people tend to be extremely toxic. I believe that is what Rocky is against, not just all aggRP in general.

[god]

I agree in many parts to Pollux's statements. 

Something we must mention here is that the players are the ones who should make a better athmosphere on the server. We got so much content, many nice and funny players, etc. 
Some players don’t understand that it can be so funny actually on the server when you just roleplay with your friends. Maybe try out something new. We are a Roleplay-Server and thats what we should be happy of actually. Being able to be someone else and trying to roleplay with your own character. Not just shoot every single person down you see jaywalking or whatever. 

I have experienced so many situations where new content was never needed. We actually have everything we need to roleplay. Of course new stuff will keep us hyped. But let’s try to actually roleplay and have fun. I think that would be a good idea.

^Sounds strange to aggressiveRP players probably but it’s true. Try to actually roleplay as mafia or something. —> Thats what I call AggressiveRP. All the other stuff is just shooting down other players to have nice stats and because it makes fun maybe. However, this is not a DarkRP server or a Team Deathmatch server.

I don’t know where to start but I think you should maybe consider the fact your idea of fun doesn’t necessarily match that of others? Approaching this from a very anti-aggressive RP prospective like you seem to have, doesn’t mean people cannot voice their concerns about the updates to guns or Kevlar for example. It also doesn’t mean they gun down everyone they see ‘jaywalking or whatever’.

Whether you like it or not, AgressiveRP is what most players get enjoyment out of. Just because your opinion of ideal AggressiveRP is playing as Mafia, doesn’t make any other form ‘shooting down other players to have nice stats’. The majority of good RP’s I have witnessed on the server that aren’t purely there for the RP points are ones that do generally involve aggressive aspects.

This might be a viewpoint from FL in the past, and don’t take it the wrong way but it’s generally always been the same, Agressive RP doesn’t equal bad role play or less server friendly. It generally just means you can’t aim and are annoyed about people killing you.

As for the other parts of the thread mentioned, I do believe a different map will be better, as will reverting the Kevlar changes.  I preferred the old guns but they did have their flaws but you can’t please everyone.

People aren't anti aggRP, they're just against the people who treat the server as a TDM because it comes at the cost of ruining the fun of everyone else on the server. It has become a lot worse than what I remember years back and likely different than what you remember too. It also doesn't help that a lot of those people tend to be extremely toxic. I believe that is what Rocky is against, not just all aggRP in general.

do you have plans to change the weapons back and remove this kevlar system?????????

[Pollux]

WE WANT EVOCITY BACK !

Give us what we want

No you don't, honestly I'm just sick of hearing stuff about the map at this point. We were on V4B1 until it was swapped out due to the server being dead as everyone said the map sucks. There isn't a single map on gmod that suits FL well, every map has compromises and we're done with playing map roulette. Map is sticking to Sanranevo until the custom map is done as players need that map stability to be able to make dupes and plan events.

[RoCKy]

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I don’t know where to start but I think you should maybe consider the fact your idea of fun doesn’t necessarily match that of others? Approaching this from a very anti-aggressive RP prospective like you seem to have, doesn’t mean people cannot voice their concerns about the updates to guns or Kevlar for example. It also doesn’t mean they gun down everyone they see ‘jaywalking or whatever’.

Whether you like it or not, AgressiveRP is what most players get enjoyment out of. Just because your opinion of ideal AggressiveRP is playing as Mafia, doesn’t make any other form ‘shooting down other players to have nice stats’. The majority of good RP’s I have witnessed on the server that aren’t purely there for the RP points are ones that do generally involve aggressive aspects.

This might be a viewpoint from FL in the past, and don’t take it the wrong way but it’s generally always been the same, Agressive RP doesn’t equal bad role play or less server friendly. It generally just means you can’t aim and are annoyed about people killing you.

As for the other parts of the thread mentioned, I do believe a different map will be better, as will reverting the Kevlar changes.  I preferred the old guns but they did have their flaws but you can’t please everyone.

Yes I know. I was generally just speaking about that many players could have fun also with the current content we have if they use it properly. I know that it’s fun to shoot people, but we are still a roleplay server and not as Pollux said a TDM one. 
People can always say their opinion about new updates and all this stuff. I support that to be honest.

[god]

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I don’t know where to start but I think you should maybe consider the fact your idea of fun doesn’t necessarily match that of others? Approaching this from a very anti-aggressive RP prospective like you seem to have, doesn’t mean people cannot voice their concerns about the updates to guns or Kevlar for example. It also doesn’t mean they gun down everyone they see ‘jaywalking or whatever’.

Whether you like it or not, AgressiveRP is what most players get enjoyment out of. Just because your opinion of ideal AggressiveRP is playing as Mafia, doesn’t make any other form ‘shooting down other players to have nice stats’. The majority of good RP’s I have witnessed on the server that aren’t purely there for the RP points are ones that do generally involve aggressive aspects.

This might be a viewpoint from FL in the past, and don’t take it the wrong way but it’s generally always been the same, Agressive RP doesn’t equal bad role play or less server friendly. It generally just means you can’t aim and are annoyed about people killing you.

As for the other parts of the thread mentioned, I do believe a different map will be better, as will reverting the Kevlar changes.  I preferred the old guns but they did have their flaws but you can’t please everyone.

Yes I know. I was generally just speaking about that many players could have fun also with the current content we have if they use it properly. I know that it’s fun to shoot people, but we are still a roleplay server and not as Pollux said a TDM one. 
People can always say their opinion about new updates and all this stuff. I support that to be honest.

cheers sherlock

[Jimmy The]

ETA on bank heists? 2025?


Legit this server can't do the simplest things for AggRP but is more than happy to spend time making some shitty kevlar system no-one cared for, was never tested and no-one wanted.

Im not even gonna comment on how Pollux here pretending there is this 'chain of development' when you brought out a 2 shot, shotgun from 200M that had to be hotfixed on the first day because you didn't fucking test the update.

Actions speak louder than words and the actions you show is you don't give a fuck and as long as you can get away with it you'll do sloppy updates that only benefit yourself and not others.