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Developers getting payed
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(12-19-2019, 01:19 AM)Midget Wrote:
(12-18-2019, 08:12 PM)Broccoli Wrote:
(12-18-2019, 03:24 PM)Midget Wrote:
(12-18-2019, 03:06 PM)Conn Wrote: -snip-


I don't think a reward should be a decisive factor for how much a developer generates output. You are given the trust and loyalty of well over a hundred people. If you think making content for FL is hard and you should be paid or rewarded for your effort you are looking at the developer position in a flawed light. 

It has always been voluntarily and done by people with the experience and interest. Your respect and position as a developer is directly correlated with the work you put into the server voluntarily. It is here you find your reward in the form of recognition and respect.

I think you're looking at it with a flawed light. I don't think you have any genuine idea how the developer team is currently ran and was ran for the past few years. You are saying this is a voluntary role which is true but then also trying to tie it to professional values such as "trust and loyalty of over a hundred people" is ludicrous. The dev team was such a relaxed and unprofessional environment when I was there and that's fine, it's a roleplay community not a job, there were no other obligations other than to work together and push updates.

Saying respect and recognition for a community is a reward for hard work and skill might be fine with a small group but Fearless is not a small group. From what I've seen and experienced, developers would only get respect for a short time after an update then would precede to be harassed and degraded for not doing work and appearing as inactive.

It is true that it is a voluntary role, but this thread is designed to stray away from that and turn it into something new, using the argument that "it has always been a voluntary role" is counter-productive and doesn't get us anywhere.

There are no downsides, literally none, to paying developers for their work.

Forgive me for my dramatic phrasing.

I still don't think any payment solution solves the problem. 
The problem I hope we have acknowledged is that developers lack motivation to push updates. 

I believe that this problem is not solved with a generic payment but rather to increase developer motivation in other ways
You say that there are no downsides; that does not mean that it is the best and sensible solution to the problem. I rather suggest focus on increasing the servers playerbase and if the problem of motivation still persists the suggestion could be re-considered. 

I'll be the person with the unpopular opinion but I'll still stand for what I believe. What happens is not up to me.



You keep repeating yourself. You keep saying motivation in other ways. Well, the only way I see it happening is by getting paid since you feel there are other ways can you please mention them?


Messages In This Thread
Developers getting payed - by Dimitris - 11-25-2019, 10:01 PM
RE: Developers getting payed - by RaZZ - 11-25-2019, 10:13 PM
RE: Developers getting payed - by konsta - 11-25-2019, 11:15 PM
RE: Developers getting payed - by RIC0H - 11-25-2019, 11:40 PM
RE: Developers getting payed - by Ranger - 11-25-2019, 11:45 PM
RE: Developers getting payed - by don - 12-19-2019, 07:47 PM
RE: Developers getting payed - by Tails59 - 12-20-2019, 12:12 AM
RE: Developers getting payed - by L Y N C H Y - 11-25-2019, 11:51 PM
RE: Developers getting payed - by User 12049 - 11-26-2019, 12:28 AM
RE: Developers getting payed - by Ranger - 11-27-2019, 12:17 AM
RE: Developers getting payed - by Wolven - 11-26-2019, 12:37 AM
RE: Developers getting payed - by Pollux - 11-26-2019, 12:51 AM
RE: Developers getting payed - by Dimitris - 11-27-2019, 12:09 AM
RE: Developers getting payed - by Pollux - 11-27-2019, 03:53 AM
RE: Developers getting payed - by Wolven - 11-27-2019, 07:28 AM
RE: Developers getting payed - by Kevin - 11-27-2019, 08:11 AM
RE: Developers getting payed - by Flame.. - 11-27-2019, 03:57 PM
RE: Developers getting payed - by Alphaverse - 11-27-2019, 11:10 PM
RE: Developers getting payed - by Fultz - 11-28-2019, 09:44 AM
RE: Developers getting payed - by Pollux - 11-28-2019, 11:41 AM
RE: Developers getting payed - by Fultz - 11-28-2019, 02:44 PM
RE: Developers getting payed - by Dimitris - 11-28-2019, 06:16 PM
RE: Developers getting payed - by Pollux - 11-28-2019, 06:32 PM
RE: Developers getting payed - by Haarek - 12-01-2019, 12:01 AM
RE: Developers getting payed - by Pollux - 12-01-2019, 05:25 AM
RE: Developers getting payed - by Eeee394 - 12-01-2019, 01:42 PM
RE: Developers getting payed - by Pollux - 12-01-2019, 10:18 PM
RE: Developers getting payed - by Panda - 12-01-2019, 10:34 PM
RE: Developers getting payed - by Pollux - 12-01-2019, 10:39 PM
RE: Developers getting payed - by Conn - 12-02-2019, 05:24 PM
RE: Developers getting payed - by Pollux - 12-02-2019, 05:38 PM
RE: Developers getting payed - by SoulRipper - 12-14-2019, 09:30 AM
RE: Developers getting payed - by Dimitris - 12-14-2019, 11:02 AM
RE: Developers getting payed - by User 12049 - 12-14-2019, 07:48 PM
RE: Developers getting payed - by Broccoli - 12-14-2019, 12:03 PM
RE: Developers getting payed - by Zambie - 12-14-2019, 10:03 PM
RE: Developers getting payed - by Haarek - 12-16-2019, 12:01 AM
RE: Developers getting payed - by Pollux - 12-16-2019, 11:22 AM
RE: Developers getting payed - by User 12049 - 12-16-2019, 05:50 PM
RE: Developers getting payed - by Haarek - 12-18-2019, 02:47 PM
RE: Developers getting payed - by Conn - 12-18-2019, 03:06 PM
RE: Developers getting payed - by Haarek - 12-18-2019, 03:24 PM
RE: Developers getting payed - by Conn - 12-18-2019, 04:53 PM
RE: Developers getting payed - by User 12049 - 12-18-2019, 06:18 PM
RE: Developers getting payed - by Broccoli - 12-18-2019, 08:12 PM
RE: Developers getting payed - by Haarek - 12-19-2019, 01:19 AM
RE: Developers getting payed - by Dimitris - 12-19-2019, 08:42 AM
RE: Developers getting payed - by Haarek - 12-19-2019, 10:00 AM
RE: Developers getting payed - by Dimitris - 12-19-2019, 12:00 PM
RE: Developers getting payed - by Haarek - 12-19-2019, 12:53 PM
RE: Developers getting payed - by Dimitris - 12-19-2019, 01:08 PM
RE: Developers getting payed - by Broccoli - 12-19-2019, 01:14 PM
RE: Developers getting payed - by Haarek - 12-19-2019, 01:59 PM
RE: Developers getting payed - by Pollux - 12-19-2019, 02:02 PM
RE: Developers getting payed - by Haarek - 12-19-2019, 02:13 PM
RE: Developers getting payed - by Fultz - 12-19-2019, 02:56 PM
RE: Developers getting payed - by Pollux - 12-20-2019, 12:58 PM
RE: Developers getting payed - by Fultz - 12-20-2019, 02:18 PM
RE: Developers getting payed - by Pollux - 12-20-2019, 02:47 PM
RE: Developers getting payed - by Fultz - 12-20-2019, 02:56 PM
RE: Developers getting payed - by Broccoli - 12-19-2019, 02:08 PM
RE: Developers getting payed - by Pollux - 12-18-2019, 05:45 PM
RE: Developers getting payed - by Haarek - 12-18-2019, 07:25 PM
RE: Developers getting payed - by Ranger - 12-27-2019, 09:07 AM

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