Fearless Survey results

[Conn]

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There’s not too many ways to make money - contra/weed, selling items, casinos, salaries. A few more ways such as through contra overhaul, farming, distillation, etc would be nice. Also, there needs to be more to spend money on, not too sure as to what though

I'm still waiting for this to be looked into for the first time in months! 

https://www.fearlessrp.net/showthread.php?tid=91851

Trust me when I say that stuff is in the works, sadly I can’t go into detail, but hopefully there’s a few things we’re not far off

[don]

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There’s not too many ways to make money - contra/weed, selling items, casinos, salaries. A few more ways such as through contra overhaul, farming, distillation, etc would be nice. Also, there needs to be more to spend money on, not too sure as to what though

I'm still waiting for this to be looked into for the first time in months! 

https://www.fearlessrp.net/showthread.php?tid=91851

Trust me when I say that stuff is in the works, sadly I can’t go into detail, but hopefully there’s a few things we’re not far off

You should be able to go into detail, we are a community.

Without us you are simple nothing, and soul has no money.

We should have the right to know what the server is putting into motion, yet again the issue with transparency. We put our time and money into the server to be kept in some black box.

You are also, not using stuff like this correctly, you can make teasers, release threads building up hype on the server instead of just dropping them randomly.

Hype, keeps players hooked.

[Conn]

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There’s not too many ways to make money - contra/weed, selling items, casinos, salaries. A few more ways such as through contra overhaul, farming, distillation, etc would be nice. Also, there needs to be more to spend money on, not too sure as to what though

I'm still waiting for this to be looked into for the first time in months! 

https://www.fearlessrp.net/showthread.php?tid=91851

Trust me when I say that stuff is in the works, sadly I can’t go into detail, but hopefully there’s a few things we’re not far off

You should be able to go into detail, we are a community.

Without us you are simple nothing, and soul has no money.

We should have the right to know what the server is putting into motion, yet again the issue with transparency. We put our time and money into the server to be kept in some black box.

You are also, not using stuff like this correctly, you can make teasers, release threads building up hype on the server instead of just dropping them randomly.

Hype, keeps players hooked.

I wholeheartedly agree, and I've brought up transparency on multiple occasions with the team. I can only hope now that it's considered. I really do want the option to be transparent about what I work on, so fingers crossed

[Haarek]

'Plenty of stuff to do here. Economy needs boosting, contra overhaul, and other new ways of making money.'

What do you even mean with "Economy needs boosting"? What is your reasoning for more ways to make money and what should they be?

There’s not too many ways to make money - contra/weed, selling items, casinos, salaries. A few more ways such as through contra overhaul, farming, distillation, etc would be nice. Also, there needs to be more to spend money on, not too sure as to what though

My doubt in the suggestion lays root in the fact that any feature that can add money into the economy will be used to it's full extent. Here lays a crucial factor to prevent inflation. 

When you set out to make a system that creates money you have to look at the end result or the worst-case scenario. For money printers it would be:

G=1200m-5750 where G stands for gain. 


What we could realistically expect with some deviation is that the maximum amount someone could gain with contraband is approx. 80,000 $ in 6 hours in a more realistic 3 hours it would be approx. 37,000 $
With weed before the update the amount you could produce was around 18 ,000$ every 3 hours given you had 5 pots and not more. 

Optimally in one long sitting of around 6 hours you could produce around 120,000$ with full dedication and only 5 pots. 

My point being, that if you were to add a system to gain more money you would have to take the already existing systems into consideration. You could either;

A: Compensate for a new system by lowering amount gained by the previous. 
B: Make a system that cannot be done at the same time as others. (I.e. Delivery van) 

So you run into the scenario that you cannot have the suggestions you mentioned. As you cannot have systems that can stack ontop of eachother as you will inflate the economy. As mentioned you must expect it will be used to it's full extent. 


You want new systems to make money. I rather suggest making the current contraband system more engaging (Notice how I write engaging and not overhaul.) since you can already make enough money with it. Your distillery is in principle just another contraband farm. Wanting new content all the time is something I think you should grow up from. 

You can make features and updates without new stuff all the time.

[User 12049]

sooooooooooooooooooooooooo, whats happening with the results from this?

What changes are going to occur?

Going to get more devs?? Going to push out actual updates????

[JackZ]

A ‘Coming Soon’ tab for updates would honestly be great.

[Conn]

sooooooooooooooooooooooooo, whats happening with the results from this?

What changes are going to occur?

Going to get more devs?? Going to push out actual updates????

Have a bit of patience and there’ll be change.. You should know that development takes time, moreso when it’s balanced around work, school, etc.

A ‘Coming Soon’ tab for updates would honestly be great.

I agree, I think we could do one better and I’ve suggested ideas but not heard much back yet.

[Arch.B]

A ‘Coming Soon’ tab for updates would honestly be great.

Yea love that idea, updates which are defiantly being worked on and due for release soon, everyone knows what there is to do from the suggestion approved forum but no one knows what we are working on. That would be nice.


AsTransparentAsFrostedGlass

[Pollux]

A ‘Coming Soon’ tab for updates would honestly be great.

I'm against that as just a list of things being worked on will just make it more annoying for developers with people constantly asking for progress due to the small amount of information.

There are more complex things in discussion atm which will improve transparency between the Community and the Development team, it's just they also come with their own issues. The FL map thread Mavis made shows how some people in the community really cannot understand how long it may take to release something. If showing what is being worked on will result in the same level of harassment to the current dev team, i'm sure any change we make to be more transparent will be reverted quickly.

[don]

A ‘Coming Soon’ tab for updates would honestly be great.

I'm against that as just a list of things being worked on will just make it more annoying for developers with people constantly asking for progress due to the small amount of information.

There are more complex things in discussion atm which will improve transparency between the Community and the Development team, it's just they also come with their own issues. The FL map thread Mavis made shows how some people in the community really cannot understand how long it may take to release something. If showing what is being worked on will result in the same level of harassment to the current dev team, i'm sure any change we make to be more transparent will be reverted quickly.

But what everyone said about him and the project was correct.

This got abandoned like people predicted.

Dont give false promises to the community giving time and dates and consistently not following up on them.

Thats on him, not the community that he was lying to.

You all just want a curtain to hide behind, so you can be lazy. It isnt hard to tell us whats in the works on the thing we all waste our time on.

If this is the issue, the council should be perfect but you're also against that.

And if thats the case, i hope something just wipes out the server, because transparency is what the community deserves while sticking through bullshit after bullshit.

We all understand with any development team it will take time to bring out things, especially the one at present. But the transparency lets us know what that we arent wasting our time waiting for nothing, if we didnt understand it took time, no one would play. Its just the way you go about it is slowly forcing people away. Also, you talka bout people bashing Marvis that says alot about you and maybe the team. Dont set dates and tell us it will be out here and then, and then every time it was bullshit, thats on him.

If you are worried about this backlash, it says alot about your character and what you're currently doing here at FL. Transparency wasnt the issue in this case, it was the fact is bullshit we was being fed.