Community Feedback 2: Electric Boogaloo

[dtaylor331]

Done 
 

[Nick]

Done I want to thank the staff for finally doing this

[Fultz]

This survey is honestly so poorly set up. All it is pertaining to is Events and Development. Both of these things, in my opinion, are currently not the issues FL is facing. The issue is the fact that you have half of the administration team (Including SAs) are inactive. We have how many Admin Abuses still sitting there? If Tomo isn't sweeping through ban requests how many pages of them do we have? Bringing back the moderator helped the issue, but it also gave the admin team a bigger shield to continue sitting inactive.

I did, however, answer this fully, but there are more issues to FL than what you are providing here.

[don]

This survey is honestly so poorly set up. All it is pertaining to is Events and Development. Both of these things, in my opinion, are currently not the issues FL is facing. The issue is the fact that you have half of the administration team (Including SAs) are inactive. We have how many Admin Abuses still sitting there? If Tomo isn't sweeping through ban requests how many pages of them do we have? Bringing back the moderator helped the issue, but it also gave the admin team a bigger shield to continue sitting inactive.

I did, however, answer this fully, but there are more issues to FL than what you are providing here.

please come back

[ImTheRealSparks]

Although this is not tackling the issue of inactivity within the staff team, it is certainly a step in the right direction. Whether our feedback is taken into consideration is to be seen.

[Fultz]

Although this is not tackling the issue of inactivity within the staff team, it is certainly a step in the right direction. Whether our feedback is taken into consideration is to be seen.

Feedback on what? How many big and small updates you think the dev team should force out? Or my personal favorite, your feedback on if Casinos should be banned?

I dont even know why we should be asked if we think an Event Manager would be a good thing. Everyone is going to say yes to that. You guys are making this so hard when fixing the activity on the servers is honestly so much easier than you are making it.

1. Active staff team.
Demote inactive staff. If they dont have time demote them. If they gain time in the future. They can always come back to the team.

Promote active people. You have fucking 3 ranks now that they have to go through. If they are a shit mod, demote them. If they are an okay mod keep them there. If they are a good mod promote them to Trial. If they are a shit trial demote them. If they are an okay trial put them back on mod. If they are a good trial promote them.

How hard is that? Same goes for SAs.

Edit: I just want to emphasize this to everyone. This issue is the biggest problem. Whenever I was SA I have shut down people who have eventually become staff in the future as well as have demoted/force resigned admins who eventually came back and became SAs here on FL. It does not matter how great you are. You are worth nothing if you are not here.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1...sp=sharing 
This is how serious I was in regards to activity.

2. Events once or twice a week. Twice is the more realistic answer.

These don't even have to be elaborate events. These can be super basic shit. A prison, a gallery, hell even a good government roleplay that isn't basic dictator shit. Make a mold for others to build off of. Most people are either A. Too lazy to make their own rp or B. Cannot think of their own rp. Staff can make the scene and everyone else can build off it. 

ex: Prison-Guards/Warden, Transporter, Prisoners, Government workers, Paramedics, Chefs, etc, etc , etc. Its not hard. 

Maybe you occasionally make a huge event. Once a month or two, but all you need is to create an atmosphere to get people on.

Instead of focusing on getting new players. How about you try and bring back the existing community that is here not playing? Once you get them back and playing and the server fills up again, then new players will naturally join the server whenever they see this new fresh server that has say 60+ people on it. Whenever I get on the server recently all I see is everyone standing around not doing shit. Give them something to do. 

That is all you need. After you can get past these two steps you can then focus on the rest. Development can then get their gears turning as to what the server needs. Because right now you are trying to get them to think of ideas to save the server instead of ideas to aid the server. I joined FL in 2011 and I have seen a total of 4 developers in my time here. Temar, Matt W, BlackShadow, and Mavis. We have never had a shit ton of updates. We didnt need them. You want to know why? Because whenever I was SA we had an active staff team, Encouraged RP, and didnt shy from that. The staff teams have been so weak recently and none of them do shit otherwise.

[[LT] Sparx]

This survey is honestly so poorly set up. All it is pertaining to is Events and Development. Both of these things, in my opinion, are currently not the issues FL is facing. The issue is the fact that you have half of the administration team (Including SAs) are inactive. We have how many Admin Abuses still sitting there? If Tomo isn't sweeping through ban requests how many pages of them do we have? Bringing back the moderator helped the issue, but it also gave the admin team a bigger shield to continue sitting inactive.

I did, however, answer this fully, but there are more issues to FL than what you are providing here.

That’s fair enough, you’re entitled to your own opinion, however in my opinion, the staff team is not the reason that the current server pop is really low. Personally I believe that the reason is because of a huge lack of roleplay, not just passive - generally, people actually doing something. Anything. Other than placing down casino dupes & atttempting to get rich quick. Another factor I feel has caused the server to decrease in playerbase temporarily is the indirect announcement of a new map, without actually changing to it. Whenever this happens, (and I’ve seen it happen quite a few times now) hardly anyone plays the servers until the new map is released. Having said this, I’m not disputing the fact that as a whole we could be more active as a team, however I see no reason to put anything to do with the team in this particular survey, I stand by the fact that I don’t think it’s the main reason people aren’t playing as much and that is the issue that I want to try and resolve right now.

[Fultz]

This survey is honestly so poorly set up. All it is pertaining to is Events and Development. Both of these things, in my opinion, are currently not the issues FL is facing. The issue is the fact that you have half of the administration team (Including SAs) are inactive. We have how many Admin Abuses still sitting there? If Tomo isn't sweeping through ban requests how many pages of them do we have? Bringing back the moderator helped the issue, but it also gave the admin team a bigger shield to continue sitting inactive.

I did, however, answer this fully, but there are more issues to FL than what you are providing here.

That’s fair enough, you’re entitled to your own opinion, however in my opinion, the staff team is not the reason that the current server pop is really low. Personally I believe that the reason is because of a huge lack of roleplay, not just passive - generally, people actually doing something. Anything. Other than placing down casino dupes & atttempting to get rich quick. Another factor I feel has caused the server to decrease in playerbase temporarily is the indirect announcement of a new map, without actually changing to it. Whenever this happens, (and I’ve seen it happen quite a few times now) hardly anyone plays the servers until the new map is released. Having said this, I’m not disputing the fact that as a whole we could be more active as a team, however I see no reason to put anything to do with the team in this particular survey, I stand by the fact that I don’t think it’s the main reason people aren’t playing as much and that is the issue that I want to try and resolve right now.

read my second post. The one above yours

[Pollux]

This survey is honestly so poorly set up. All it is pertaining to is Events and Development. Both of these things, in my opinion, are currently not the issues FL is facing. The issue is the fact that you have half of the administration team (Including SAs) are inactive. We have how many Admin Abuses still sitting there? If Tomo isn't sweeping through ban requests how many pages of them do we have? Bringing back the moderator helped the issue, but it also gave the admin team a bigger shield to continue sitting inactive.

I did, however, answer this fully, but there are more issues to FL than what you are providing here.

That’s fair enough, you’re entitled to your own opinion, however in my opinion, the staff team is not the reason that the current server pop is really low. Personally I believe that the reason is because of a huge lack of roleplay, not just passive - generally, people actually doing something. Anything. Other than placing down casino dupes & atttempting to get rich quick. Another factor I feel has caused the server to decrease in playerbase temporarily is the indirect announcement of a new map, without actually changing to it. Whenever this happens, (and I’ve seen it happen quite a few times now) hardly anyone plays the servers until the new map is released. Having said this, I’m not disputing the fact that as a whole we could be more active as a team, however I see no reason to put anything to do with the team in this particular survey, I stand by the fact that I don’t think it’s the main reason people aren’t playing as much and that is the issue that I want to try and resolve right now.

Casinos aren't a reason there's no roleplay, they're more a result of there being no incentives to do other forms of roleplay. Why would anyone want to sit in a shop and lose a ton of money when they can make money with a casino? The solution to this isn't to just ban casinos, rather to make others forms of roleplay more profitable and fun. We had this conversation while I was dev too but back then all we did is get rid of advert costs and lower a few property prices. It was a step in the right direction but we never really followed up on it. Stuff like bringing back the Teacher team (this was an incentive to passiveRP as it gave people something to look forward to) and reworking jobs to function better can help. Focus on improving current gameplay rather than adding a ton of new stuff, some jobs could really use a rework to make them more useful and fun to play.

I do get Development is a big part of the server too, but really it's fine right now and shouldn't be a focus. FL a few years ago didn't have major additions regularly or even smaller ones as often as you guys do now. The thing that kept the server going back then was the staff team and how they interacted with the community in order to promote roleplay. ClanRP was MASSIVE back then too which really helped encourage others to roleplay more. Another thing is that staff used to regularly roleplay with normal users by doing stuff such as some amazing corleone RPs or setting up a shop with others instead of mini-events which no one apart from staff can actually host. Staff are important as they need to act as an example for the rest of the community (this is something Teachers also really helped with). If people see staff engaging in a ton of roleplay, they will likely join in and then later on host their own stuff. Hosting events and mini-events doesn't really help with this as normal users can't really do them without staff help. It is fun to do them and i'm not saying don't bother with hosting events, but they're not going to help encourage roleplay on their own.

I think the survey is trying to break down a complex issue too far, and in the end is just asking for things that won't really fix the current situation.

[Zulu]

Thanks Sparx <3