Dreebott

[DreeBott]

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WHAT HAHAHA
Dude, I said it about 2000 fucking times now, I NEVER meant to insult frost or you. NEVER.
Saying that I "only join to cause havok and harass certain individuals" is Bullshit. I joined and asked frost a simple question without meaning ANYTHING bad.

If you think that i only join fearless to waste my time and harass you or forst then youre sad. Why would I waste time and harass you or frost? I was friends with frost so what reason should I have to harass him?
Also I didn't get of "lightly" with you I just didn't break ANY rules thats all. Grabbing your IP by getting you to click a link on steam has NOTHING to do with Fearless at all and saying that asking someone if they're pissed about something is a threat is ridiculous and you know it.

I also feel offended by you saying that you think that I only join to harass which is not the case at all.
just because you THINK it is like this doesn't mean it ACTUALLY is like it.
Saying that I join the server to harass is also pretty disrespectful don't you think? I have something about 1800 Hours played on the server why the hell would I just suddenly start to join the server again just to harass others??
You my sir are making assumptions about me. A LOT.

How do you find joy in being such a snowflake?
Also, try to correctly write my name next time

Involved - I've helped Wolven deal with this situation and was a witness to the entire situation

The fact that you have grabbed Wolven's IP has everything to do with Fearless, you grabbed his IP Because of situation that happened In-game. You have found a user to harass over Fearless services which is against the Fearless ToS. I'm sure if someone grabbed your IP and threatened to DDoS you, you wouldn't take the threats sitting down.

The argument that this was not a threat is not worth arguing, just by saying you have his IP is a threat and you did this through Fearless Services.

All I can hope for now is that the staff team will make the right decision .

Helping Wolven deal with this situation and being a witness doesn't make you a Involved.
Also, he's accusing me of breaking ToS which is not the case as I didn't use ANY Fealress Services to get his IP. I just know him from FL thats all. Saying that "I've found a user to harass over fearless" is just disrespectful towards me as this isn't true.

[DreeBott]

I'm no longer going to reply to people like you. I will wait for the staffs verdict as this is going around in circles. Have a good day, dreebot

Not even having the decency to corretly spell my name shows how much of a snowflake you are wolven.
Not responding to my responses is not the way to go on a player report just because you dont have any more arguments... It's really sad to see how you've changed and what kind of person you've become. Lol

[DVN]

Removed replies from uninvolved users.

Being on the server at the time, replying to them in OOC or 'helping' anyone doesn't make you involved in the current situation. After reading over everything it would be best to cease replying and leave the decision up to Divey and the team.

[Wolven]

I'm no longer going to reply to people like you. I will wait for the staffs verdict as this is going around in circles. Have a good day, dreebot

Not even having the decency to corretly spell my name shows how much of a snowflake you are wolven.
Not responding to my responses is not the way to go on a player report just because you dont have any more arguments... It's really sad to see how you've changed and what kind of person you've become. Lol

Alright let's start from the beginning because all the way through this player report your attitude has been a disgrace. You’ve just outright insulted me in your most recent reply and I believe it is crucial to the case that it is brought to light. In a PR against yourself where you are being accused of harassing me you have continued to insult me time and time again. You also address my written english which is incredibly hypocritical considering the lack of grammar and spell check in your most recent reply.

Starting in your original reply you claim that you basically have done nothing wrong, this is lying in the courthouse quite simply. You sent me the following link after a short conversation on steam where you were surprisingly aggravated for no particular reason, taking it out on myself.

In this statement -



You have mentioned that you have not used FL to harass me but where was I rude to you? Can you explain to me what initiated this whole situation? We both know the whole reason this is happening is because I killed you in a raid on the fearless services, quite simple. Not only in this situation did you break fearrp but it is also where the ToS violation began. From this point onwards and evident in the following screenshots of your conversation between you and divey
 You lied to an administrator during an investigation of something that happened to a fearless member of the community. If an administrator would be so kind as to check how many times dreebot has connected to the server recently I would have reason to believe that the most recent time was simply to harass me and frost.

In his most recent time spent on the server with me he threatened to not only ddos myself but everyone just because he can. This shows willing and intent, we already have the motive above. You initially attacked frost asking him how he still occupies himself with so many hours at which point I defended my friend, you then openly admitted to having access to my IP. Something which you have previously denied having. You then started to further break more points of the terms of service by claiming you - Sending malicious links to community members alone is enough to warrant a ban nevermind advertising you have done it in OOC AFTER denying you had the IP to an ADMINISTRATOR who was investigating the situation.

The main application here is you cannot hide behind the “not on FL services” loophole any longer due to you bringing the rule infringement straight into OOC.

Once I stopped replying to yourself you then began to threaten a fearless roleplay staff member by the alias of [FL] Arny, you openly threatened to ddos him because you can. This is another separate ToS violation as Arny himself is a staff member furthermore increasing the severity of this whole case. You claim that the screenshots posted below give a better insight into what I stated but all they do is further incriminate yourself.




Finally I would like to apologize to DVN I appreciate you have attempted to diffuse the situation however the fact that there are three pages of posts in regards to this is a disgrace, the situation is simple he has harassed me both ingame and over steam and then went out of his way to lure me into clicking a malicious link and brag about it in OOC chat INGAME. This will be my final reply, hopefully, in this situation.

Have a lovely evening,

Fearless Roleplayer Wolven

[DreeBott]

Dear Fearless Staff and Fearless "Roleplayer" Wolven,

sorry for my lack of knowledge on the english language as im only from germany and have no idea how english works.
I also want to apologise for my "outburst"of anger in this Thread.
I see what your points are wolven and you keep on making the same points over and over again even tho I've answered all of them already. I also want to apologise for insulting you. (Apparently Snowflake now is an Insult)

Alright, lets start this:

I want to start by saying that I dont think calling someone a "Snowflake" is a Insult because Snowflakes are cute which was the main message of me calling you a Snowflake.
Also, names shouldn't be too hard to spell as you can just simply copy them.

Starting in your original reply you claim that you basically have done nothing wrong this is lying in the courthouse quite simply.

Me stating that I've done nothing wrong is not lying in the courtehouse its a opinion. My Opinion. There is no lie here. So please may I ask you to stop calling me a liar and accept the fact that I have an oppinion. Thanks.

I think that you're not understanding what I'm trying to tell you with all my responses. So I'll gladly put you up to date with my side of this whole story:

The first situation happened when I was playing on Fearless to see if there was anything new. I joined Vice President and then this happened:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiP2Rn6D0TE

At the beginning you can see me joinen the job and being met with fire as I left the elevator. Spawn protection saved me.
Both put me under FearRP and forced me to show them where the president is. I did. So stating that I "broke FearRP" is false and therefore lying in the courthouse from your side (It was also really rude of you to execute me after I've helped you two and followed every order and also surrendering with the president / I can upload a the whole video on request it just might take some time.)

Not only in this situation did you break fearrp but it is also where the ToS violation began

After that I raged and messaged you on STEAM which is not related to FL at all, which means that the Fearless ToS don't apply here. Gmod was closed.
I then insulted you and you insulted me until i blocked you. I then thought "Warum schicke ich ihm nicht einfach einen Link, womit ich seine IP ergattern kann, damit er sich ein bisschen pipi in die Hose macht" which translates to: "why not try to scare him and send him an IP grabber link". I then went to Dr. Google and searched for a IP grabber tested it out and shortened the Link with the google Link shortener.
I then sended the link to you and said that it was a picture of you (which it obviously wasn't) to get you to click on the link. You did and the IP got grabbed. I said "k thx" and blocked you again. I then had you IP and wrote it down.
Minutes later Divey messaged me and asked me what I was doing and what that Link was.
(Remember this all is still OUTSIDE Fearless ToS as no Fearless Services were used in the process of getting his IP - Steam only)
Divey in this situation wasn't there as a Admin but more as a friend who was trying to solve a situation between two guys. So he had no Admin role in this situation. So saying that I "Lied to an Administrator during an Invastigation" is false as he is no Steam Admin.

You lied to an administrator during an investigation of something that happened to a fearless member of the community

I then lied to divey telling him it was a Link that just shows your Location based on your IP and went to sleep as it was late and I wanted to go to sleep.
Saying that I lied to him as an Administrator is false.
I keep the IP for a couple of days and deleted it because I didn't have any need for it. No need to DDoS as I dont even know how it works and because I could get in serious trouble for doing that. And that's not worth it honestly.
Oh and I also said that i was to scare him in Diveys Chat as you can see in wolvens response:

Clearly impling it was meant as a joke to scare him.

!!!Keep in mind this all happened OUTSIDE OF FL and no FL services were used so Fearless ToS DO NOT apply!!!

Back to the OOC situation. (Keep in mind that the colored part of my reply (This color) is meant for you to know what happened outside of FL services.)

I joined back a few days later to play again. I wanted to see who was still playing the game and to see if there is anything new for me to enjoy. I then saw frost with a huge amount of 4400 Hours. I was like "WHY?" not meaning ANYTHING bad. No harassment here. Arny then asked me if I had a problem which I felt like was harassment towards me just because I was stunned by the amount of hours frost already has gathered.
(Arny's message appeared while I was typing my response so i didn't see it in time)
I then simply asked frost in a nice matter how he still finds something to do after so many hours, again not meaning anything bad.
Then Arny came along again and tried to harass me further by asking me out what it had to do with Frost having 4400 hours, trying to get everyone to think im picking on Frost which I DIDN'T.
Then wolven also jumped on the train and told me to stop picking on him (?!?!?!?!?).
That triggered me and I told wolven to stop being butthurt just because  I had his IP. Simply stating that you have someone's IP is not necessarily a threat. I never said I was going to use it. You can get people's IP just by playing on Fearless with proper tools. Does saying you have their IP really a threat? (I was also just trying to refer to the first situation that happened when I said this)

If you would actually be so kind to share more of chat the chat you can see that I didn't start with the DDoS Topic (As I remember someone else did) Never did I ever used DDoS in a sentence before.

I then tried to show you how simple it was to DDoS by saying "I could literally DDoS everyone because everyone can".
There is one important word in this sentence. It's marked in red. It is the word could. I could also jump out of the window or I could drive my car into a tree, I could also shoot a weapon on a target. Could doesn't mean im going to, nor does it mean that i intend on doing it. Why I said it? Well to show that it is easy even for someone like me to learn how to DDoS and then actually doing a DDoS Attack on someone. And no, I still dont know how to DDoS, like I said in another response.

I then also said I can DDoS Arny but im not going to. I can also jump out of the window, or buy a llama. but WHY would I?
Simply saying that i have NO reason to DDoS Arny or anyone else. But you and Arny saw it as a threat again.

In his most recent time spent on the server with me he threatened to not only ddos myself but everyone just because he can. This shows willing and intent

Saying that the time I recently spend on FL was just to harass or threaten you is delusional. Thinking i only spend my time to harass you or others is kind of sad in my eyes. (not mean as an Insult, i feel like I have to say this so you understand it )

You initially attacked frost asking him how he still occupies himself with so many hours at which point I defended my friend

How is asking someone how he still finds something to do on FL harassment or an attack?
A simple plain question that wasn't mean to do anything bad. But if you get triggered by such a simple question then I'm sorry. Like I said a couple of times im sorry if you feel harassed.

The main application here is you cannot hide behind the “not on FL services” loophole any longer due to you bringing the rule infringement straight into OOC.

Saying that I'm trying to hide in a "loophole" is total BS. Getting your IP happened outside of FL services, so no ToS Applie. Saying that I have your IP happened ingame, but as it was not meant as a threat i still fail to see where I broke the rules and if it was a real thread. Saying that the first situation is not within FL TOS is also complete BS as these are two different situations that happened at 2 different times in 2 different places. One outside of FL ToS and Service, one within of FL Tos and Service.
From what I understand you can't consider anything from 3rd party services as evidence for rule break on FL. If that's not the case, please point me to a part in ToS or server rules where this is specified. Even if you could consider steam chat as evidence, there was no real threats other than rude talk, but can you ban me for that?

Sending malicious links to community members alone is enough to warrant a ban nevermind advertising you have done it in OOC AFTER denying you had the IP to an ADMINISTRATOR who was investigating the situation.

From this I think you mean that I sended links to multiple members of Fearless which is NOT the case as you were the only person I gave the IP grabber Link. And again, outside FL Divey is not an Admin and no Fearless ToS or rules apply when I'm messaging you on steam. And yes I denied having your IP, baisically lying to divey, which is not a bannable offense as this happened outside FL services.

You're baisically trying to make me look bad, not showing whole pictures and trying to change the story by saying I started with the whole DDoS thing and I do not appreciate that.

I'll follow what DVN said and not reply anymore, I wouldn't have replied anyway but as Wolven made a reply with lies in it I had to respond and make his statements straight. Thanks for reading.

Oh and again I'm sorry if you're offended, never meant to offend or harass anyone by asking simple questions, nor do I still have you IP nor do I know how to DDoS nor did I ever want to do that. Saying otherwise would be a lie.

Thanks

[Wolven]

Dreebot, may I remind you that lying in the courthouse can lead to a forum suspension?

https://youtu.be/8ZKlUx8vZNE

[DreeBott]

Dreebot, may I remind you that lying in the courthouse can lead to a forum suspension?

https://youtu.be/8ZKlUx8vZNE

0:43

May I remind you that Metagaming on Fealress can lead to a ban?

Two can play this game wolven.

I'm also very disappointed that you still dont have the decency to correctly spell my name. Sad really.

[Divey]

Approved.

DreeBott was bluffing about the potential to DDoss, he is not able to do so.
I believe the best outcome for all parties would for you both to either ignore one another or find a common ground between you both. If you need any help in doing so then feel free to come to me (I have dealt with a similar case in the past when it comes to harassment). 
This seemingly 'rivalry' between you is also a relatively new and despite me originally telling you after the original bluff over steam that he had no power to do anything you put it down to me condoning this behaviour, despite nothing being at risk.

I will however, be giving DreeBott a 5 hour blacklist from OOC for threatening behaviour.

I would also like to reiterate that not once did he use FL services to pick out a specific individual and claim that he was going to attack them.