The staff team
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(10-15-2018, 01:41 AM)Prosto Wrote: Let me try to explain why applications wont work.

First of all, its not about simply banning minges, surely if staff job was just banning massive propkillers, 90% of community could become staff. It also involves working with people, dealing with somewhat stressful situations. Its involves talking to people, investigating(sort of), and being as unbiased as possible.

Now lets imagine apps do get added. Everyone will start posting applications, and what happens next? How do you know who is capable/trustworthy etc etc? Short answer - You cant. Why? Simply because as soon as player post application they become "exceptional player" good behaviour etc. They know they are being watched, they know that if they want to become staff they need to behave well. You are delusional if you dont understand it.

Players behave completly different in natural environment, this allows staff to pick people judging by their actions not words like "Hi I love FL and RP I be good I promise"

Surely you can say but people still asslick without applications. They do, but during my time on FL I met only 3 or 4 people who became admin via blatant asslicking. Guess what 2 of them didnt even pass trial/mod stage. Trust me, asslicking is VERY obvious, especially if its massive.

But there are already biased admins! - Maybe you are right, but still its not as massive as it would be if applications existed.

One last time, Applications simply will not work. People will change behaviour. You dont know if you can trust said people. You dont know if those people are biased or not. Staff job is not only about typing out "!ban %username% 5days propkilling" if it was only that, it would be completly different story
Thanks.

If you can do me one favour then sir, come up with a solution that is going to fix the fact the staff team do not bother coming on the server. If you even so say "Give them time to become active", "Things will/are being done", "they have lives" then ima have to spank you because all of this shit has been said, three months ago they said they would sort it but nothing has happened. And, i don't know if you've read other replies or threads, but them having a life preventing them coming on the server is an extremely half assed excuse. If they have something else better to be doing than administrating on FL at least once a week for a couple hours then leave the position to allow for someone else to come and fulfil the job correctly. I understand it is voluntary, however, if you're a volunteer at your local charity shop but never work there then you would leave would you not? As you cannot give up the time for them.

Another argument you may say is that it's not about letting go, we just need to increase the size of the staff team. What is the point in having a large staff team? I would rather a staff team of 7 people who are actively doing their job than a staff team of 20 who come on when they can be bothered, whip out their ego and act biased.

Ya know, it might just do the server some good to have some people tryharding, actually learning the rules. We might have a little more success in defeating the minges that way.

You are the same as everyone else, you overlook the fact an application does not just get accepted. There is a period a player is monitored and most players i can guarentee with get bored with being the good guy, go back to their old ways and have their application denied. Does this then defeat the point in applications? Not at all because it's only a small majority that would do it. They do not just go straight into a trial period, there is so much more to it than that. Just because an application is posted does not then require that candidate to follow through with it, or the requirements.

As for your point on asslicking people getting admin, you're fairly right in the fact asslickers don't get admin. It's the admin's friends. Either way, it is a very specific audience that get admin through a very, very, very biased system.

One thing i've also noticed is that it is all of the inactive members of the community, people who don't play only making an occasional comment on the forums, that are against applications because you have no idea about the modern staff team. Come and join the server for a week, put up with what we do with absolutely no admins on, then give us another solution to fixing the issue.
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The staff team - by Aryen - 10-04-2018, 04:40 PM
RE: The staff team - by Willem de Walrus - 10-04-2018, 05:09 PM
RE: The staff team - by Aryen - 10-04-2018, 05:14 PM
RE: The staff team - by JackZ - 10-04-2018, 05:33 PM
RE: The staff team - by Forgee - 10-04-2018, 05:52 PM
RE: The staff team - by Jan - 10-04-2018, 06:01 PM
RE: The staff team - by Fultz - 10-04-2018, 07:33 PM
RE: The staff team - by Baskingner - 10-04-2018, 06:32 PM
RE: The staff team - by Zona - 10-04-2018, 07:50 PM
RE: The staff team - by juicyorange - 10-04-2018, 06:15 PM
RE: The staff team - by DVN - 10-04-2018, 06:53 PM
RE: The staff team - by god - 10-04-2018, 09:24 PM
RE: The staff team - by Yonno - 10-04-2018, 08:36 PM
RE: The staff team - by Random - 10-04-2018, 09:09 PM
RE: The staff team - by Aryen - 10-04-2018, 09:38 PM
RE: The staff team - by Aryen - 10-04-2018, 09:42 PM
RE: The staff team - by Aryen - 10-04-2018, 09:47 PM
RE: The staff team - by JackZ - 10-05-2018, 06:39 PM
RE: The staff team - by Fultz - 10-05-2018, 07:51 PM
RE: The staff team - by Forgee - 10-05-2018, 11:46 PM
RE: The staff team - by Eoin - 10-04-2018, 09:48 PM
RE: The staff team - by Spartan_KCT - 10-05-2018, 05:45 AM
RE: The staff team - by Aryen - 10-05-2018, 03:31 PM
RE: The staff team - by Yonno - 10-05-2018, 04:22 PM
RE: The staff team - by Aspire - 10-05-2018, 04:46 PM
RE: The staff team - by Lewwings - 10-05-2018, 04:58 PM
RE: The staff team - by Aspire - 10-05-2018, 05:00 PM
RE: The staff team - by Lewwings - 10-05-2018, 05:01 PM
RE: The staff team - by MrFinnConlon - 10-05-2018, 05:20 PM
RE: The staff team - by Greed^ - 10-05-2018, 05:51 PM
RE: The staff team - by Nuka - 10-05-2018, 09:04 PM
RE: The staff team - by Zona - 10-05-2018, 09:18 PM
RE: The staff team - by Aryen - 10-05-2018, 09:50 PM
RE: The staff team - by Aryen - 10-05-2018, 10:01 PM
RE: The staff team - by Grunt - 10-05-2018, 11:00 PM
RE: The staff team - by Aryen - 10-07-2018, 11:28 AM
RE: The staff team - by Aryen - 10-07-2018, 11:29 AM
RE: The staff team - by Lewwings - 10-10-2018, 07:08 PM
RE: The staff team - by JackZ - 10-10-2018, 07:42 PM
RE: The staff team - by Random - 10-10-2018, 07:58 PM
RE: The staff team - by Divey - 10-10-2018, 08:45 PM
RE: The staff team - by Agorith - 10-10-2018, 08:48 PM
RE: The staff team - by JackZ - 10-10-2018, 09:56 PM
RE: The staff team - by Lewwings - 10-10-2018, 08:49 PM
RE: The staff team - by Divey - 10-10-2018, 09:17 PM
RE: The staff team - by Huskii - 10-10-2018, 09:37 PM
RE: The staff team - by JackZ - 10-10-2018, 09:57 PM
RE: The staff team - by Jessixa - 10-10-2018, 08:53 PM
RE: The staff team - by BasicallyMental - 10-10-2018, 09:17 PM
RE: The staff team - by Lewwings - 10-10-2018, 09:27 PM
RE: The staff team - by BasicallyMental - 10-10-2018, 09:33 PM
RE: The staff team - by DVN - 10-10-2018, 10:29 PM
RE: The staff team - by Aspire - 10-10-2018, 10:33 PM
RE: The staff team - by DVN - 10-10-2018, 10:39 PM
RE: The staff team - by Aspire - 10-10-2018, 10:48 PM
RE: The staff team - by BasicallyMental - 10-10-2018, 11:03 PM
RE: The staff team - by Spartan_KCT - 10-11-2018, 02:20 PM
RE: The staff team - by Random - 10-11-2018, 03:40 PM
RE: The staff team - by Lewwings - 10-11-2018, 03:53 PM
RE: The staff team - by Grunt - 10-11-2018, 04:00 PM
RE: The staff team - by Spartan_KCT - 10-11-2018, 03:50 PM
RE: The staff team - by Random - 10-11-2018, 04:09 PM
RE: The staff team - by Lewwings - 10-11-2018, 04:14 PM
RE: The staff team - by BasicallyMental - 10-11-2018, 05:02 PM
RE: The staff team - by Jonas - 10-11-2018, 05:48 PM
RE: The staff team - by BasicallyMental - 10-11-2018, 06:19 PM
RE: The staff team - by Agorith - 10-11-2018, 06:31 PM
RE: The staff team - by Random - 10-11-2018, 07:16 PM
RE: The staff team - by Willem de Walrus - 10-11-2018, 05:12 PM
RE: The staff team - by Decay - 10-11-2018, 07:53 PM
RE: The staff team - by JackZ - 10-11-2018, 08:24 PM
RE: The staff team - by Aryen - 10-13-2018, 10:30 PM
RE: The staff team - by Aryen - 10-13-2018, 10:44 PM
RE: The staff team - by Aryen - 10-13-2018, 10:57 PM
RE: The staff team - by Random - 10-14-2018, 12:23 PM
RE: The staff team - by Aryen - 10-13-2018, 11:05 PM
RE: The staff team - by juicyorange - 10-14-2018, 07:20 AM
RE: The staff team - by Zona - 10-14-2018, 01:47 PM
RE: The staff team - by JackZ - 10-14-2018, 01:57 PM
RE: The staff team - by Zona - 10-14-2018, 02:41 PM
RE: The staff team - by Random - 10-14-2018, 03:18 PM
RE: The staff team - by Rookie (Isaac) - 10-14-2018, 02:38 PM
RE: The staff team - by Aryen - 10-14-2018, 06:30 PM
RE: The staff team - by JackZ - 10-14-2018, 10:31 PM
RE: The staff team - by Prosto - 10-15-2018, 01:41 AM
RE: The staff team - by JackZ - 10-15-2018, 11:28 AM
RE: The staff team - by BasicallyMental - 10-15-2018, 01:08 PM
RE: The staff team - by Prosto - 10-15-2018, 02:32 PM
RE: The staff team - by Deleted User - 10-15-2018, 02:35 PM
RE: The staff team - by Andrew Juniperfield - 10-15-2018, 08:52 AM
RE: The staff team - by Kahjo - 10-15-2018, 08:52 AM
RE: The staff team - by Aspire - 10-15-2018, 09:50 AM
RE: The staff team - by Danny Boy - 10-15-2018, 02:30 PM
RE: The staff team - by Aryen - 10-15-2018, 09:36 PM
RE: The staff team - by Aryen - 10-15-2018, 09:39 PM
RE: The staff team - by Agorith - 10-16-2018, 10:49 AM
RE: The staff team - by Grunt - 10-16-2018, 12:53 PM
RE: The staff team - by Aryen - 10-17-2018, 06:50 AM
RE: The staff team - by Vimpto - 10-17-2018, 06:53 PM
RE: The staff team - by Random - 10-17-2018, 07:06 PM
RE: The staff team - by Vimpto - 10-17-2018, 08:29 PM
RE: The staff team - by Lewwings - 10-21-2018, 07:17 PM
RE: The staff team - by Lewwings - 10-21-2018, 07:20 PM
RE: The staff team - by Aryen - 10-22-2018, 08:24 AM
RE: The staff team - by Awestruck - 10-22-2018, 12:57 PM
RE: The staff team - by Aspire - 10-22-2018, 03:13 PM
RE: The staff team - by Jordy - 10-22-2018, 05:09 PM
RE: The staff team - by User 12049 - 10-22-2018, 07:43 PM
RE: The staff team - by Aryen - 10-22-2018, 06:44 PM
RE: The staff team - by Vimpto - 10-22-2018, 09:35 PM
RE: The staff team - by Bobby - 10-22-2018, 09:55 PM
RE: The staff team - by User 19014 - 10-23-2018, 02:48 AM
RE: The staff team - by jhayw - 10-23-2018, 09:16 AM
RE: The staff team - by Huskii - 10-23-2018, 11:57 AM
RE: The staff team - by Lewwings - 10-23-2018, 04:05 PM
RE: The staff team - by Aspire - 10-24-2018, 12:15 PM
RE: The staff team - by Agorith - 10-24-2018, 01:04 PM
RE: The staff team - by Aspire - 10-24-2018, 01:24 PM
RE: The staff team - by Agorith - 10-24-2018, 01:30 PM
RE: The staff team - by Cox - 10-23-2018, 04:18 PM
RE: The staff team - by Lewwings - 10-23-2018, 04:19 PM
RE: The staff team - by Lewwings - 10-23-2018, 04:31 PM
RE: The staff team - by Zulu - 10-23-2018, 04:47 PM
RE: The staff team - by Rookie (Isaac) - 10-23-2018, 05:39 PM
RE: The staff team - by User 19014 - 10-23-2018, 06:06 PM
RE: The staff team - by sebasti161 - 10-24-2018, 11:32 AM
RE: The staff team - by User 19014 - 10-24-2018, 06:05 PM
RE: The staff team - by sebasti161 - 10-24-2018, 07:25 PM
RE: The staff team - by Lewwings - 10-24-2018, 09:11 PM
RE: The staff team - by Willem de Walrus - 10-24-2018, 09:30 PM
RE: The staff team - by Divey - 10-24-2018, 09:58 PM
RE: The staff team - by Lewwings - 10-24-2018, 10:15 PM
RE: The staff team - by Vimpto - 10-26-2018, 05:11 PM
RE: The staff team - by Wolven - 10-26-2018, 06:13 PM
RE: The staff team - by juicyorange - 10-26-2018, 09:34 PM

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