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Will repost my conclusions of Pine City from 7 hours ago from earlier pages, I believe more people should read this. It seems that more people can agree with my points by reading recent comments.

If FL chooses Pine City it will pull a LL, I'm flying through Pine City in singleplayer at this very moment as I'm writing this. It's horrible, it's empty yet huge. There is no Nexus but a City Hall that is very empty, just in front of the City Hall there is a big ugly park that none of us are used to, we're all used to small parks that is in Evocity.

Spoiler: Tell me what use will this have for FL?

I'm not expecting the park to be active, perhaps in the beginning it will but after a few weeks it will be empty.

Spoiler: Will this actually replace our beloved Nexus? It's the City Hall of Pine City, it's big and empty and there is no way I will have fun as a President.

Such a disrespectful insult to the Nexus, replace this shit to Nexus? The Nexus is x100 better than this disgraceful building, the garage is garbage, the big empty room with wood floor which I assume will be the office of the President is absolutely disgusting, it's huge and empty, the only thing I expect for it is to have a huge reinforced barricaded room with dozens of units armed with rifles.

Spoiler: What will this building be used for? Is it the alternative for office?

WIll this building be used for casinos? any mini events/big RPs by Lesanka, Avgar & friends? I honestly cannot predict what this building will be used for.

Spoiler: Give me your honest thoughts on this park lot.

Any thoughts yet? Well I can't be bothered parking my car and then walk out from the parking, it's longer than the traditional parking in Main Streets or Northview Lane in Evocty which you can just park and go. Not Park and walk up out which is longer, I'm a lazy vagina and I'm sure a lot of you are too, if not then you will become one. Not to mention the parking lot is huge, imagine walking from the furthest back of the parking lot till you get outside, not to mention to the tight corridor, 2 players can barely fit into that corridor, imagine if gun fights will be taken place, it will take longer than you would imagine.

[spoiler=I am now inspecting the Police Station, at the entrance there is a big lobby with an unnecessary long desk. A desk is meant for 1 or 2 players, not 16 players. I hate this desk, it could limit RP and structures.]


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I go past the desk, I see a big lobby, quite empty and lots of space, with a few world props that will be placed by admins it should be good to go.

I go past that lobby, I stumble upon the garage, and I like it. You can lock the garage door for compounds and anything past that door will be used for, simply, parking. Something to seperate Police cruisers parking and compounded vehicles. I go back to the lobby, go open the other door and check the room, I honestly don't know for what use could this be. It's a huge room with a big window to the right that is visible outside, I hate this room. I go out of that disgusting room, I go upstairs. To my left there is a bar door, which is the jails. Seems alright, I like it. The cells are cells, there's an interrgation room that also has a 1 side window, investigators can see you but you can't see them. The only issue with it is that players can use it as their advantage for combat, but of course it will be considered forbidden and you will be punished. And there's also a warden office?  Seems alright but a bit too long from the door to the end of the wall.
[spoiler=I exit the jails now I see a huge fuckin window with a big empty roof past it. That is a major let down for me]


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 I wanna see what's below the window and across the street, not an empty roof. The Police station could be good without that roof shit. 

I open the doors to the right of the window, big room with desks to the right, I guess it's alright as long as it has world props added. I open the door to left of the desks, that's the office of the Police Sergeant I assume. Too big for an office of a sergeant, way too big. Not to mention it has that huge awful view of the window that I was talking previously.

Spoiler: Terrible office.

So I finished checking the Police station, I got mixed feelings about it. Without that awful desk and its lobby, without that sad "window" that you can't see through it but an empty roof and the huge office of the Police Sergeant, it could be great. If only you could see across the street and below that window by having that roof removed, having a normal desk and lobby, having a normal smaller office, it could be great. 

I went to check more of the city, I checked out the shops, I like them. I checked the Pine City 3 Star Hotel, I don't like it, way too much of a big empty space at the entrance and only 4 rooms with a massive halll.

Spoiler: Hotel

The rooms of the hotel are basically the same as Tides Hotel rooms in V33X/V4B1.

Checked the Burger King, it's basically like any other Burger King.



I finished checking the city, so far  I think it's bad. Why? The Office building is horrible, as if it only took less than 5 minutes to make it, the City Hall is a major disrespect and an insult to our Nexus, look at the fuckin garage, an unnecessary huge office, dull hallways and desk, it's easy and fast to build with no effort into it. Stupid parking lot, I would never park there. Police Station has issues, it could be better but the map maker didn't put enough effort in it. The park is unnecessary huge and unneeded, and I'm not expecting it to be that active. 

Spoiler: I decided to check what's at the other side of the city tunnel.

HOLY FUCK IT'S LONG, Keep in mind that I was nocliping at full speed. Imagine driving through that shit, or worse, running through that if you don't have a car, I'll feel bad for those who don't have coffee or steroids. V5P at least has a train. This is a long empty road, if you want to cross it, get a cup of tea while you're at it.

At the end of that shit tunnel, to my right there is some small building that is a surrounded by fences and a gate, when you get through the gate you will see double doors, only one person can get through it at a time. First you need to open and get through that fence door then get through the main door. 

Spoiler: It's a pain in the ass.

Anyway I went inside and its seems alright, it's a power station. It just needs some world props such as those big electricity towers that supplies electricity and it's good to go.

So I went out and followed the road. And I stumbled upon a highway, below it's under construction.

Spoiler: And I went down and followed the road.

Man fuck this highway, I gotta go through the tunnel then that highway and vice versa? No fuck you. If you want to travel around the map go fuck yourself, that's what map says. I nocliped at full speed, keep in mind that I travelled through that long city tunnel with full speed on noclip, now I have to do the same thing with this highway. This is a bad map to travel. You need a very fast car if you want to start travelling "fast". There's no way you can get around with a trabant, and if you don't have a car well you're fucked, you need to hitch hike and get picked up by someone. 

So I stumble upon the suburbs, and I like it. I love the condos, the villas are good. The thing is with the suburbs is that they're only good for passive, and they're not meant for aggressive RP. You are too exposed for aggro.

I went past the suburbs and I see a BP gas station. It's alright for a gas station, it's quite big and open.

I go past that gas station and stumble upon a tunnel and thank fuck it's not long. And finally there's the lake, there's nothing around the lake, just trees and hills. It's empty, just a lake and a dock. I don't like this. I got two routes to go, left and right, I started with left that has rocks at two opposite directions which looks like it's about to fall, and I follow the road. I got through the tunnel and finally, there's the industrial area. I checked every warehouse and man they're boring, open and huge. They won't be any good aggressive RP considering every warehouse has multiple doors. 

I finished checking Industrial and was disappointed, I decided to go through the tunnel to my right.

And I have arrived at the city, to my right there's the terrible park. So the only place that is left to check is the other route through the lake that I was talking about previously.

What I see past the tunnel? DTM, Fire department and hospital. The three buildings are good,  DTM is basically the same DTM in every Evocity map.

So I finished and followed the road and went through the tunnel, there's the city. I basically finished checking the entire map, started writing checking at 18:17 PM and finished checking. at 20:22 PM.

My conclusions:
The map is very big, every corner has a lot of space and empty, everything is huge. The windows are huge, door frames are huge, like Rockford but doesn't have a bad road and highway system as Pine City has. The city itself is disappointing and the worst, I cannot imagine any aggressive RP, there are no slums, no apartments but a hotel which bases is forbidden anyway. City Hall is an insult to the Nexus, it's dull, boring, looks big and promising at the outside but in the inside it's bad and disappointing, is the garage even considered a garage? Do we need that parking lot, it's big and no way I'll park my car there, it will take time and effort to get in and get out on foot. I got mixed feelings about the police station, I believe SRU and Police should be spawned in the same building that is big enough where the President spawns, like the nexus. Do we really need that big of a park? With that space of the park, we could have slums and apartments but nope, a huge park with a strange roof things that I don't know the word for them and I cannot imagine their use other than some creative person to have a use for Passive RP. The highway and roads are a nightmare, who in the right mind would ever think of it as a good idea? It will take an eterenity to get through the map with a cheap vehicle for players who start FL, they would get frustrated and most likely to leave FL. The Wilderness is very open and very empty and quite big, suburbs or some call it villas are not good for aggressive RP, they're good for passive RP, family houses are not the same like in Evocity, you are very exposed to get rushed and killed, maybe condos are better than the family houses for shootings but you won't last long as it is very small. Industrial area are not good for basing as there are multiple doors in every warehouse and thefore exposed to get rushed. The lake area is empty, just hills and wood of the wilderness. No cabins or anything, just a dock and a road surrounding. This map is terrible for aggressive RP and it will die. It's already in a decline, why make it worse and even kill it? There's no where to base, everything is huge, open and exposed. If there were to be aggressive RP it would be very limited. If you damage aggressive RP you damage FL entirely, it is not wise to have this map for FL at all at under no circumstances. There will be consequences for FL and the playerbase if this map will be chosen, it will be a mistake.