PR: Tzimanious

[Random]

Name of player: Tzimanious

SteamID: STEAM_0:1:34865831

Time in GMT: 16:10

Server: v2d

Summary: There was a raid for no reason, then Tzimanious shot us. Now, the reason is normally not a reason to raid (Arresting team members, but Hitman and/or Tomo allowed them to.) Note: The reason im only posting for Tzimanious is because I only recorded his actions, and not everybody else's.

Evidence: 


http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.co...B833583E3/

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.co...06D1F9D22/

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.co...913E64BFD/

They also killed the president: http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.co...023D6CA68/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q777NePh...e=youtu.be

[Tzimanious]

First of all. As it seems the SRU killed you and not me... This can be seen at 0:10. I'm not even pointing my gun at you yet you die. However it's still not Random because there was a raid going on and since I was told that an admin allowed it I don't see why I couldn't just kill you.



Secondly, we were 2 families. The Corleones (with a custom gang name) and the Taylor Family. Both of these families got members arrested and killed (?) by the police and the goverment. The president was no friend to us and we were his target hence the raid. Both of the families met at the bar and had a "Briefing". Both of the families' leaders (I won't tell names unless asked by an admin/mod to do so) told us that we were given permission by [FL]Hitman to raid. (Logs can be found of me /pm'ing the Corleone leader asking from who we were given permission to raid. These logs can be found a bit later after the conversation I had with RandomGamer)

Also, no one else besides you said anything about the raid being random so I guess that's another proof of everyone being okay with it. Even the 2 admins online did not respond to neither the "@" call (I called them too) nor said anything in OOC. (Hitman just told you that I'm not obliged to tell you why I raided therefore he saw your messages about the raid yet did not answer as he knew the raid was valid. However that's a conjecture of mine)

[Random]

First of all. As it seems the SRU killed you and not me... This can be seen at 0:10. I'm not even pointing my gun at you yet you die. However it's still not Random because there was a raid going on and since I was told that an admin allowed it I don't see why I couldn't just kill you.



Secondly, we were 2 families. The Corleones (with a custom gang name) and the Taylor Family. Both of these families got members arrested and killed (?) by the police and the goverment. The president was no friend to us and we were his target hence the raid. Both of the families met at the bar and had a "Briefing". Both of the families' leaders (I won't tell names unless asked by an admin/mod to do so) told us that we were given permission by [FL]Hitman to raid. (Logs can be found of me /pm'ing the Corleone leader asking from who we were given permission to raid. These logs can be found a bit later after the conversation I had with RandomGamer)

Also, no one else besides you said anything about the raid being random so I guess that's another proof of everyone being okay with it. Even the 2 admins online did not respond to neither the "@" call (I called them too) nor said anything in OOC. (Hitman just told you that I'm not obliged to tell you why I raided therefore he saw your messages about the raid yet did not answer as he knew the raid was valid. However that's a conjecture of mine)

,
I never said that YOU killed ME, but you did kill Jonas. As Jonas was not recording, but I did, I am making the PR.

Even though the President is not friends with you, does not make him an enemy, but you would be neutral in this case.. You were not banned from the city, nor was the Corleones. Do you have proof that the guy said Hitman saying it was Ok? If so, i want the proof.

That is not true, at all. Jonas was also complaining, and even if no one else would care, it does not matter to me, as I feel you violated the rules.

(Note to Hitman/Tomo: If you knew the raid reason, you could not have PM'd me in game, when I said: There is a random raid going on in @ call..?)

[Infernaw]

I spoke to Hitman regarding this case.
The situation was approved and monitored by a staff member.

Report denied.