Unban Request
#1
Your name: [FL:RP] Conn; ID: STEAM_0:0:11409226 

Your ban ID: 57543 

Banned by: [FL] Sir Crow 

Reason: BRA (56162) - FailRP, FearRP (Extended due to current ban) 

Involved: Wood
                 Von Tempski


Why we should unban you: 
Have you ever felt the sensation of driving your old beaten up car down the City Streets? You see stores, but not stores ran by an NPC, stores ran by two players. The Store may be called Subway, or Sony. Maybe you go in, its Sony, you get a TV or a Phone. Or its Subway, and you see a full line to pick what you want on your sub, you pay only $9 to the cashier and you walk out with your bag. Then maybe you go to the gun store in the back of the city, the truck doors open with the push of a button and an array of weapons appear. A smile lights up on your face as you straighten your tie, which you just ironed in your penthouse apartment, and test out the weapons. Examine the mechanics, look down the sights. You would out with a case of ammunition and sporting a large rifle.

You meet people, men in rags trying to jump through windows. People in suits, don't get close to the guys they surround. Because those are Private Mercenaries, trained in formation. What you see is a living, breathing, dynamic, and totally interactive world that you can have a massive impact on.

Sometimes, the impact is a little too much.


You know when a man is on a bridge and he holds a gun to a loyal police officer, what can a leader do but pray to the lord? He can have 4 heavily armed assault units surround him from every angle. Two on either side, two on an elevator ledge. He's exposed, he's a clean shot. The Hostage would go totally unharmed.

And that's exactly what happened. So what did I have to fear, Wood? When you are shot in the head, you don't have that last reaction to shoot the hostage. You were just shot in the head. 3 times. By 5.56mm and 7.62mm rounds. One bullet went down into your skull and two intersected through your brain. You certainly weren't backed into a corner where only a lucky or expert marksman could have eliminated you, again, there was nothing to fear. So I didn't break FearRP.

Furthermore there was a stage of apology and compensation. I fully recognized the confusion within the situation so I offered 2 things. One, discussion, though no one but myself wanted to talk, they only wanted to take their vengeance to the forums. Which is ridiculous. Why would you want someone to get banned? Do I stutter, do I fail to recognize FearRP? Obviously not. 

I could make argument after argument but I want to get to the conclusion and to the point I found inside the lines. Where the ink dripped down the page was a hidden message.

A ban is punishment for breaking the rules. Rules are set to create a fun, safe, and effective environment. But how do you get the rules to the player and the sometimes required ban? You need an administrator. Zecon offered to end your raid outright. Here are my thoughts on this, which I said in a tl;dr version to Zecon.


Quote:"Sometimes players do incorrect things with the mindset what they are doing is correct. However, they are still wrong and end up being punished. I believe this is unnecessary and for that I will forgive such a mistake and allow the player to continue, just so no one gets upset, confused, whatever the case may be."



And I proceeded to be the one stabbed in the back. What did I do to you, Wood? Nothing, absolutely nothing. We just talked on steam yesterday about working TOGETHER upon my return. So obviously you would realize that I in no way was not understanding of you know, FearRP. One of the most fundamental concepts of Roleplay. I mean you realize it was -BASIC- logic to kill you? I outplayed you, if anything you should be the one fearing the people that had weapons on you before you even knew where we were. Which of course, I wouldn't try to record a video, and take screenshots, and take time-stamped chat logs of every little thing you do, that's too much work for someone who already has MORE then enough to deal with, especially at my age. Trust me, you'd think I'd enjoy life and not be responsible for half the shit I am. And it also takes the fun out of playing a game. 


So in conclusion, of what is hopefully a well-put together summary of the situation and the inarguable logic used on my side of it, I hope my ban can be lifted and we can all be friends. Because there isn't a reason otherwise, "rules aren't rules." the purpose behind having rules, is the purpose behind having rules. When you can comprehend that life will be a lot simpler, let me tell you.

Hope there is no ill-will,
~ Conn.
#2
Right, I'm not sure what all the rubbish is about how you feel as I honestly couldn't really care about it, as you broke the rules so it's your fault. There was 100% FearRP involved.



There was more than three shots. It took around 5 seconds for me to die, which I could have easily shot the hostage, which is what you fear. You fear me killing your cop. The video clearly shows I could have shot him and killed him so you were all under FearRP. It's quite simple, even though I was out numbered, I literally had a cop point blank range with a heavy machine gun.
Kind Regards,
Wood.
#3
(01-04-2015, 04:02 PM)Wood Wrote:
Right, I'm not sure what all the rubbish is about how you feel as I honestly couldn't really care about it, as you broke the rules so it's your fault. There was 100% FearRP involved.

There was more than three shots. It took around 5 seconds for me to die, which I could have easily shot the hostage, which is what you fear. You fear me killing your cop. The video clearly shows I could have shot him and killed him so you were all under FearRP. It's quite simple, even though I was out numbered, I literally had a cop point blank range with a heavy machine gun.
I don't feel this is a helpful reply to the thread at all. Maybe you should just let the admins take a look at it since you obviously aren't respecting the entirety of the post, only the two or three sentences of the lengthy post that you can actually, in some partial way, argue. Obviously there is a lot more to it, and sure it took you awhile to die, damage isn't tied to which part of the skeleton you hit. But we're Roleplaying - there was nothing for me to Fear, I had multiple clear shots on you, the hostage was totally unharmed and you had no chance to harm him. Hmm? No need to reply to this one, I don't think posting the video for a third time is going to make a difference.

Note: The video was slowed down at points and rather choppy, its like watching a 16 tick demo on CS:GO of a 128 tick game, so its not totally accurate of when he died and what he could have accomplished, harm-wise, to the hostage.
#4
I haven't slowed down the video, it took me 5 seconds to die since the first shot, so quit the whole inaccurate thing. What you did, was break FearRP. You can't make up your own rules and say you don't fear it, because I had a hostage under FearRP so you are not allowed to shoot.
Kind Regards,
Wood.
#5
(01-04-2015, 04:26 PM)Wood Wrote: I haven't slowed down the video, it took me 5 seconds to die since the first shot, so quit the whole inaccurate thing. What you did, was break FearRP. You can't make up your own rules and say you don't fear it, because I had a hostage under FearRP so you are not allowed to shoot.

You are stuck in a box of linearity and misleading. You fail to read through the scribbled in-between. That box will be your mind's coffin one day, I advice opening up. There is no need to become rash, and respond with what is really just a shitpost. You provide no evidence, no argument, nothing you've already said. Its time to let an admin decide and stop the bickering. I've said it many of times, please stop, and thank you.

~ Conn
#6
I'm afraid I have the freedom to post here, as it was me who wanted you banned. As I have said, yet you seem to be the one in a box, is that you broke FearRP. Everything else you say is totally unrelevent, and unneeded. The point is, you broke FearRP, you got banned. I don't care in the slightest why you broke it, you did it and it was proven by my video and the video you posted.
Kind Regards,
Wood.
#7
Wood had a gun clearly pointed to the officer's head. He could have easily killed him off. You shouldn't have told the officers to kill Wood, the officers shouldn't have shot first.

FearRP is fearing for one's life. Government is to protect it's people, not allow them the chance to be possibly killed because "They have a clear shot."
It's complete FailRP to order your officers to shoot at someone who is armed and has a rifle pointed at another government official's head.
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#8
Appeal reviewed and denied.

Closing notes:
Suspension for accused player will stand as issued.
Accused player was given adequate time to respond, failure to do so shows no further interest in this case.

[FL] Sir Crow
Server Administrative Team
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