UBR/shorten on myself

[Kayak]

Your name: [FL:RP] Kayak



Your ban ID: 54507



Banned by: [FL] KPred



Reason: General minging, intentionally abusing a welded note to kill someone, NLR



Involved: KPred, Kai (my friend), Myself



Why we should unban you: I don't think that the ban was really justified to be as long as it is. 1 week for RDM'ing one person and light NLR? Everyone gets banned for 1-2 days for RDM, but I get an entire week? If most NLR bans are roughly 1-2 days, and most RDM bans are roughly 1-2 days, giving me 1 week is pretty much doubling what I should've gotten. It's not like walking back to where my friend toasted me so I can kill him magically multiplies my ban by 2, does it?

[Kpred]

You claim it was "light" NLR, yet you ran straight back to where you just died?

Not to mention the intent of you using the note, you pulled it just far enough so it would have enough speed to kill someone.

It was your 7th ban, hence it being longer.

[Kayak]

You claim it was "light" NLR, yet you ran straight back to where you just died?

Not to mention the intent of you using the note, you pulled it just far enough so it would have enough speed to kill someone.

It was your 7th ban, hence it being longer.

"Light" as in it didn't harm anyone, or any RP. 

Let's not forget my friend, who did the same two fucking things and I'm the one getting slammed with 7 days. If you knew I NLR'd, then you knew he had RDM'd me in the first place.

The entire timeline was as follows: I kill my friend with a note > he comes back and NLR's > he RDM's me with a TMP > I "heavy" NLR > I get pulled on a roof and get 7 days for something that others get banned 3-4 days for. Sounds fair.

qe to note: Really, it was my 6th, considering my 6th was entirely unjust and George is ridiculously slow to replying to my UBR.

qe2: George literally just removed my 6th ban, so like I said, this one is only my 6th. Even then, 6 bans and the length doubles?

[Kpred]

No, I hadn't seen what your friend had did, all I noticed was you hadn't even spent 1 minute of NLR. So I decided I'd check the logs to see who had killed you, and it was the owner of the casino of the time - the place you were standing right outside when I noticed your less than 1 minute of NLR. I brought you to the roof to question you on the NLR and you admitted you had broke it.

[Kayak]

No, I hadn't seen what your friend had did, all I noticed was you hadn't even spent 1 minute of NLR. So I decided I'd check the logs to see who had killed you, and it was the owner of the casino of the time - the place you were standing right outside when I noticed your less than 1 minute of NLR. I brought you to the roof to question you on the NLR and you admitted you had broke it.

Yes, exactly. We're just re-stating everything I said in the UBR. I'm not denying I broke rules, I'm willing to swallow that I'm a piece of shit. The owner of the casino was my friend, Kai. We're still sitting in the same damn skype call. All I want is for you to tell me why you doubled my ban length. Saying it was my ban count after the fact won't cut it.

[Kpred]

Yes it does "cut it". It's not up to you to make those decisions, and personally I feel as though I'm being lenient considering you had 6 previous bans. Just because you know that what you did was wrong and the person who killed you was your friend, doesn't mean it's going to be any shorter.

Edit: One of your previous bans have been removed, I'm willing to shorten it to 5 days, but that's all.

[Kayak]

Yes it does "cut it". It's not up to you to make those decisions, and personally I feel as though I'm being lenient considering you had 6 previous bans. Just because you know that what you did was wrong and the person who killed you was your friend, doesn't mean it's going to be any shorter.

Edit: One of your previous bans have been removed, I'm willing to shorten it to 5 days, but that's all.

Fair enough, glad we could agree somewhere at all. Thank you for your time, and sorry for being a bit of a dickhead.

[Kpred]

Approved