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3rd Reich(National Socialist) - Helped it's people by destroying the slaving banks that give everyone debts and made a better bank system, one that deletes part of debt with every child born into family.
3rd Reich(As everyone knows it) NAZI RACIST JEW KILLING HOMOPHOBIC NEO-NAZEES OMFG KILLITWITHFIRE
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(07-04-2014, 12:06 PM)Melissa Connor Wrote: 3rd Reich(National Socialist) - Helped it's people by destroying the slaving banks that give everyone debts and made a better bank system, one that deletes part of debt with every child born into family.
3rd Reich(As everyone knows it) NAZI RACIST JEW KILLING HOMOPHOBIC NEO-NAZEES OMFG KILLITWITHFIRE
Even if they did the first thing, that doesn't change that they actually were "nazi racist jew killing homophobics"
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(07-04-2014, 12:06 PM)Melissa Connor Wrote: 3rd Reich(National Socialist) - Helped it's people by destroying the slaving banks that give everyone debts and made a better bank system, one that deletes part of debt with every child born into family.
3rd Reich(As everyone knows it) NAZI RACIST JEW KILLING HOMOPHOBIC NEO-NAZEES OMFG KILLITWITHFIRE
*sigh* Yea, the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei did do some GREAT things by improving infrastructure and stopping the oppressive treaty of versailles... However that dosn't change the fact that they killed and burn their own citizens. Filled it's children with pro-aryan race propaganda and had an oppressive police organisations that could make the NSA frown. You have to varied the good with the bad, and when it comes to National Socialism then I think that the bad in that ideology is worse than most other ideologies.
Remember in politics there will always be some good and some bad in every decision made. It all just depends on one perspective and what you personally think weight most.
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(07-04-2014, 09:45 AM)Adman Wrote: (07-04-2014, 12:43 AM)Freezak Wrote: Christian radicals are in fact a strong group nowadays, want to create a Caliphate, threat to take over foreign lands etc. etc. Sorry, completely forgot about that. We're doing great unless we (Europe) will become a big multicultural land.
It is pretty clear that you have a serious problem with Islam. Mind sharing why that is?
As British, you should know a bit better.
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(07-04-2014, 04:21 PM)Freezak Wrote: -snip-
Hey, I hate extremist groups such as ISIS or Al-Qaeda as much as the next guy but it's delusional to judge every practitioner of a certain faith based upon the actions of a select few. There's no doubt that people view topics such as immigration as real concerns but to judge people on their faith instead of on their character and merits is archaic and exactly the sort of xenophobic thinking that holds us back. People here don't just have concerns about Islam (Unless you follow the BNP then chances are you're a racist hooligan) but parties such as UKIP play on the fears of the population to secure votes; none of which is helped by sensationalist media such as the Daily Mail. Opponents to immigration here focus not only muslims but also on eastern europeans. (you only have to look at the farcical that was the 'romanian invasion' the tabloids made up to see this) Honestly, I'm not aware of the political situation in Poland so things may operate differently. But I'm far more concerned that politics still moves in a direction where policy and legislation is based upon public opinion and not evidence. If immigration is tightened then it should be due to living space and economic factors, not because the public doesn't want poles or indians walking into their pubs.
On the original title/topic of this thread, I think it's hugely misguided to propose nazism wasn't inherently racist.
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(07-05-2014, 01:26 PM)Adman Wrote: (07-04-2014, 04:21 PM)Freezak Wrote: -snip-
Hey, I hate extremist groups such as ISIS or Al-Qaeda as much as the next guy but it's delusional to judge every practitioner of a certain faith based upon the actions of a select few. There's no doubt that people view topics such as immigration as real concerns but to judge people on their faith instead of on their character and merits is archaic and exactly the sort of xenophobic thinking that holds us back. People here don't just have concerns about Islam (Unless you follow the BNP then chances are you're a racist hooligan) but parties such as UKIP play on the fears of the population to secure votes; none of which is helped by sensationalist media such as the Daily Mail. Opponents to immigration here focus not only muslims but also on eastern europeans. (you only have to look at the farcical that was the 'romanian invasion' the tabloids made up to see this) Honestly, I'm not aware of the political situation in Poland so things may operate differently. But I'm far more concerned that politics still moves in a direction where policy and legislation is based upon public opinion and not evidence. If immigration is tightened then it should be due to living space and economic factors, not because the public doesn't want poles or indians walking into their pubs.
On the original title/topic of this thread, I think it's hugely misguided to propose nazism wasn't inherently racist. UKIP is actually a good opponent for other British parties, and no matter how they want to secure votes, they're doing it successfully. You don't even know why certain people decide to vote on UKIP, you need to remember that you're not everyone.
And who exactly said that immigration should be tightened because the public doesn't want whoever walking into their pubs? I've always thought that it should be tightened due to other factors, did i miss something?
Political situation in Poland is kind of different. We don't have a big problem with Muslim immigrants due to obvious reasons, but we're getting raped with bare hands by our own government - that's our real issue, google Polish tape leak.
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