Unban request.

[ITSaBanana]

Your name: ITSaBanana

Your ban ID: 45602

Banned by: [FL] Shadow

Reason: Prop spamming

Involved: People stepping on the bottles, not really involved

Why we should unban you:

I was going into the city to look for a gun dealer, i looked around and i immediately saw a big group of people at a store, there could most likely be a gun dealer in the group so i checked it out.
The store was owned by the gun dealer so i waited for other people that were there and found out there was a conflict going on (probably more then one).
While i was waiting i spawned a couple of bottles for people to step over and break them (these bottles do no damage and dissappear when they are broken, they only make a breaking noise) this was ofcourse for my own amusement(not RP).
One conflict was not RP and the admin/moderator was probably busy with this (May be reason why i didn't get warning).
When i spawned another load of bottles outside (again about 3 or 4, is this the definition of spam?) I got banned for 5 days which in my opinion is alot for a couple of bottles.
If you have given me a warning maybe show me about this Shadow, i did not see anything.

Thank you for your time.

[DoomDude1]

Why should you get a warning, if you come on an RP server and start spawning props to people would break them "For your own amusement"?

In fact, why should you be unbanned?

[Shadow]

First time:

[09:31:03] ITSaBanana (STEAM_0:0:33590191) has spawned models\props/CS_militia/bottle01.mdl
[09:31:04] ITSaBanana (STEAM_0:0:33590191) has spawned models\props/CS_militia/bottle01.mdl
[09:31:04] ITSaBanana (STEAM_0:0:33590191) has spawned models\props/CS_militia/bottle01.mdl
[09:31:04] ITSaBanana (STEAM_0:0:33590191) has spawned models\props/CS_militia/bottle01.mdl
[09:31:04] ITSaBanana (STEAM_0:0:33590191) has spawned models\props/CS_militia/bottle01.mdl
[09:31:04] ITSaBanana (STEAM_0:0:33590191) has spawned models\props/CS_militia/bottle01.mdl
[09:31:04] ITSaBanana (STEAM_0:0:33590191) has spawned models\props/CS_militia/bottle01.mdl
[09:31:04] ITSaBanana (STEAM_0:0:33590191) has spawned models\props/CS_militia/bottle01.mdl

Second time:

[09:31:46] ITSaBanana (STEAM_0:0:33590191) has spawned models\props/CS_militia/bottle01.mdl
[09:31:46] ITSaBanana (STEAM_0:0:33590191) has spawned models\props/CS_militia/bottle01.mdl
[09:31:46] ITSaBanana (STEAM_0:0:33590191) has spawned models\props/CS_militia/bottle01.mdl
[09:31:47] ITSaBanana (STEAM_0:0:33590191) has spawned models\props/CS_militia/bottle01.mdl
[09:31:47] ITSaBanana (STEAM_0:0:33590191) has spawned models\props/CS_militia/bottle01.mdl
[09:31:47] ITSaBanana (STEAM_0:0:33590191) has spawned models\props/CS_militia/bottle01.mdl
[09:31:47] ITSaBanana (STEAM_0:0:33590191) has spawned models\props/CS_militia/bottle01.mdl
[09:31:47] ITSaBanana (STEAM_0:0:33590191) has spawned models\props/CS_militia/bottle01.mdl
[09:31:47] ITSaBanana (STEAM_0:0:33590191) has spawned models\props/CS_militia/bottle01.mdl
[09:31:59] ITSaBanana (STEAM_0:0:33590191) has spawned models\props/CS_militia/bottle01.mdl
[09:32:00] ITSaBanana (STEAM_0:0:33590191) has spawned models\props/CS_militia/bottle01.mdl
[09:32:00] ITSaBanana (STEAM_0:0:33590191) has spawned models\props/CS_militia/bottle01.mdl
[09:32:00] ITSaBanana (STEAM_0:0:33590191) has spawned models\props/CS_militia/bottle01.mdl
[09:32:00] ITSaBanana (STEAM_0:0:33590191) has spawned models\props/CS_militia/bottle01.mdl
[09:32:00] ITSaBanana (STEAM_0:0:33590191) has spawned models\props/CS_militia/bottle01.mdl
[09:32:01] ITSaBanana (STEAM_0:0:33590191) has spawned models\props/CS_militia/bottle01.mdl

If you had read the rules, you should know not to spam or do this anywhere.
The first time, you did it in BP, when the whole room was filled with people, resulting in the bottles breaking quickly and that could possibly lead to a server crash. For your AMUSEMENT.

The second time, you were outside at the petrol station, spamming the bottles in public. You should know better.
Yes, I was busy at the time and I could of warned you first but I still think that it is an appropriate punishment for you. You should learn from your mistakes.

[ITSaBanana]

Why should you get a warning, if you come on an RP server and start spawning props to people would break them "For your own amusement"?

In fact, why should you be unbanned?

My point is with that is; i was waiting and not to be to bored i spawned some bottles that do no harm to anybody and they are not spam.
Ofcourse this wasn't RP but hell if you have to ban everybody for not RPing once in a while you might as well lose the community.
I understand why somebody could overreact to these bottles and why somebody would ban me in this overreaction (still 5 days is much for it..) like i said there were conflicts and maybe in the rush of the moment i got banned.

"Why should i get a warning"? Well why should anybody get a warning then?
What are you trying to say? Nobody deserves a warning or warnings are just unnecessary?
You are an admin not a dictator
Let's not forget it's a semi-serious community and we are talking about some bottles which you weren't even involved with.

[DoomDude1]

Why should you get a warning, if you come on an RP server and start spawning props to people would break them "For your own amusement"?

In fact, why should you be unbanned?

My point is with that is; i was waiting and not to be to bored i spawned some bottles that do no harm to anybody which wasn't spam either.
Ofcourse this wasn't RP but hell if you have to ban everybody for not RPing once in a while you might as well lose the community.
I understand why somebody could overreact to these bottles and why somebody would ban me for this (still 5 days a bit much for it..) like i said there were conflicts and maybe in the rush of the moment i got banned.

"Why should i get a warning" why should anybody get a warning then?
What are you trying to say? Nobody deserves a warning or warnings are just unnecessary?

No, you don't get a warning for spamming props "because you are bored". It's an RP server. RP or don't play.

[ITSaBanana]

First time:

[09:31:03] ITSaBanana (STEAM_0:0:33590191) has spawned models\props/CS_militia/bottle01.mdl
[09:31:04] ITSaBanana (STEAM_0:0:33590191) has spawned models\props/CS_militia/bottle01.mdl
[09:31:04] ITSaBanana (STEAM_0:0:33590191) has spawned models\props/CS_militia/bottle01.mdl
[09:31:04] ITSaBanana (STEAM_0:0:33590191) has spawned models\props/CS_militia/bottle01.mdl
[09:31:04] ITSaBanana (STEAM_0:0:33590191) has spawned models\props/CS_militia/bottle01.mdl
[09:31:04] ITSaBanana (STEAM_0:0:33590191) has spawned models\props/CS_militia/bottle01.mdl
[09:31:04] ITSaBanana (STEAM_0:0:33590191) has spawned models\props/CS_militia/bottle01.mdl
[09:31:04] ITSaBanana (STEAM_0:0:33590191) has spawned models\props/CS_militia/bottle01.mdl

Second time:

[09:31:46] ITSaBanana (STEAM_0:0:33590191) has spawned models\props/CS_militia/bottle01.mdl
[09:31:46] ITSaBanana (STEAM_0:0:33590191) has spawned models\props/CS_militia/bottle01.mdl
[09:31:46] ITSaBanana (STEAM_0:0:33590191) has spawned models\props/CS_militia/bottle01.mdl
[09:31:47] ITSaBanana (STEAM_0:0:33590191) has spawned models\props/CS_militia/bottle01.mdl
[09:31:47] ITSaBanana (STEAM_0:0:33590191) has spawned models\props/CS_militia/bottle01.mdl
[09:31:47] ITSaBanana (STEAM_0:0:33590191) has spawned models\props/CS_militia/bottle01.mdl
[09:31:47] ITSaBanana (STEAM_0:0:33590191) has spawned models\props/CS_militia/bottle01.mdl
[09:31:47] ITSaBanana (STEAM_0:0:33590191) has spawned models\props/CS_militia/bottle01.mdl
[09:31:47] ITSaBanana (STEAM_0:0:33590191) has spawned models\props/CS_militia/bottle01.mdl
[09:31:59] ITSaBanana (STEAM_0:0:33590191) has spawned models\props/CS_militia/bottle01.mdl
[09:32:00] ITSaBanana (STEAM_0:0:33590191) has spawned models\props/CS_militia/bottle01.mdl
[09:32:00] ITSaBanana (STEAM_0:0:33590191) has spawned models\props/CS_militia/bottle01.mdl
[09:32:00] ITSaBanana (STEAM_0:0:33590191) has spawned models\props/CS_militia/bottle01.mdl
[09:32:00] ITSaBanana (STEAM_0:0:33590191) has spawned models\props/CS_militia/bottle01.mdl
[09:32:00] ITSaBanana (STEAM_0:0:33590191) has spawned models\props/CS_militia/bottle01.mdl
[09:32:01] ITSaBanana (STEAM_0:0:33590191) has spawned models\props/CS_militia/bottle01.mdl

If you had read the rules, you should know not to spam or do this anywhere.
The first time, you did it in BP, when the whole room was filled with people, resulting in the bottles breaking quickly and that could possibly lead to a server crash. For your AMUSEMENT.

The second time, you were outside at the petrol station, spamming the bottles in public. You should know better.
Yes, I was busy at the time and I could of warned you first but I still think that it is an appropriate punishment for you. You should learn from your mistakes.

As i see in the log the maximum amount of bottles i spawned was 9 at a time which are impossible to all break at the same time just by people stepping over them, now i can say i do not expect a server in garry's mod to crash after 9 bottles break at the same time.
It was a mistake i should not have spawned the bottles for non RP reasons, people tend to make mistakes and do stupid things for stupid reasons but i didn't have bad intentions with the bottles and i don't think anything bad could have happened (except me getting banned for some bottles ofcourse...).
In my opinion this is not "an appropriate punishment" for me and if you have read my replies by now you should see that i gave you enough reasons why i think this and that you should think the same.
I could be wrong about the server not handling bottles i am not an expert but i do have experience in garry's mod and servers.
The spam seems more like a matter of opinion if you don't know exactly what spam is in these kind of servers (it's not like the bottles were big or maybe the props' files have some errors in them, they do no harm on their own to server nor people).

[Shadow]

People make mistakes, it's not about the server crashing, it's prop spamming and it was useless to do.
Learn from your mistakes and know for next time.. that you shouldn't do it. Take a look at everyone else on the server, they don't do it.

Denied.