HitmanRP (should it be allowed?)

[Harrison]

HitManRP, I know people don't like it but my views on it.

I think HitManRP should be allowed, with-in reason.
The rules I think that should be behind it are:

1. You need to have over 150 hours
2. You need to get a valid RP reason from the contractor, like for example He raided my base and started shooting at me. or something along them lines.
3. You can not cause a big riot about the killing(Make it silent)
4. You have to use the PM system to notify the person you killed via PM why you killed them.
5. You ca not just randomly walk up to someone and shoot them then say " 'someone' told me to shoot you" this would be RDM.

I will start a poll if you think it should be allowed on the server. I tried to justify to the admins in-game but they didn't like it.

[tyyy1997]

The staff have made it pretty clear they are 100% against any forms of overly aggressiveRP. I've seen people get banned for like a day because they had over like 20 kills as a rebel..

[trouserlessliam]

I'm neither for nor against hitmanRP. On one hand you have these facts: AgressiveRP is allowed, if a reason is valid enough for someone to personally kill someone then why can't said person hire someone else to do it instead? It also adds a bit more realism to the game, if your characters personality is, for example, not outgoing/shy or they don't have the physical strength to attack someone then they're not just going to walk up and do it, are they? Metagaming is also not an issue because a picture of the target can be taken with the camera tool and the photo can be give ICly via /me.
But on the other hand: It could be open to abuse, meaning that the contractors don't provide evidence that they've been wronged by their potential target, there is also a problem that NLR can be broken because they've been killed and they want revenge so they make up a story, again touching on the lack of evidence argument and lastly there's also the possibility of getting the wrong target causing a lot of RDM complaints and issues.

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The staff have made it pretty clear they are 100% against any forms of overly aggressiveRP. I've seen people get banned for like a day because they had over like 20 kills as a rebel..

If they're so against aggressiveRP why do we have access to weapons? Why do we have gun dealers happily supplying us with them? Why do we have corleones and rebels? Granted, corleones can be passive by opening casinos or hotels etc. But rebels, by their very nature, are aggressive. It doesn't matter how much you try to tip toe around it rebels are just an aggressiveRP job. So if the administration is so against aggressiveRP why not just remove all of these jobs to save themselves the trouble? Because aggressiveRP is allowed if given proper justified reasons as to why these actions are carried out.

[tyyy1997]

Let me change my position on this a little bit: I don't think that it should be a job or anything, but allowed to hire someone to kill. Say a rebel steals your car, usually, I would track him down and kill him myself, but I would be kinda cool to hire someone with a better weapons system and more intelligent on how to handle things like that. Allow you to ask a friend to kill someone? Yes. Have someone use /advert to say "I'm a hitman, hire me", no.

[trouserlessliam]

Let me change my position on this a little bit: I don't think that it should be a job or anything, but allowed to hire someone to kill. Say a rebel steals your car, usually, I would track him down and kill him myself, but I would be kinda cool to hire someone with a better weapons system and more intelligent on how to handle things like that. Allow you to ask a friend to kill someone? Yes. Have someone use /advert to say "I'm a hitman, hire me", no.

In reality that's not how hitmen work anyway. They build reputations and word spreads around, unfortunately that wouldn't work in FL because no body gathers around and has an RP conversation about what's happening in town. There's never any talk of IC current events amongst citizens, everyone is too focused on doing their job or whatever. So the only way for word of a hitman available is through advertising but they'd have to operate like a BMD and only give out contact information, they'd then say a meeting destination where the hitman would wait to see who turns up and arrange a hit.

[Harrison]

Let me change my position on this a little bit: I don't think that it should be a job or anything, but allowed to hire someone to kill. Say a rebel steals your car, usually, I would track him down and kill him myself, but I would be kinda cool to hire someone with a better weapons system and more intelligent on how to handle things like that. Allow you to ask a friend to kill someone? Yes. Have someone use /advert to say "I'm a hitman, hire me", no.

In reality that's not how hitmen work anyway. They build reputations and word spreads around, unfortunately that wouldn't work in FL because no body gathers around and has an RP conversation about what's happening in town. There's never any talk of IC current events amongst citizens, everyone is too focused on doing their job or whatever. So the only way for word of a hitman available is through advertising but they'd have to operate like a BMD and only give out contact information, they'd then say a meeting destination where the hitman would wait to see who turns up and arrange a hit.

I see what you are getting at, But IRL HitMen would be more secret about it and do /advert "Need a "pest" exterminating?" and have a frontal cover. They would then receive a hit from a contractor and then first they would confirm the hit by cross-referencing to RP picture been given to them. They would then receive a valid reason and also meta by using the persons stats to see if they have dies. This will then get rid of any NLR links.

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If someone found some perfect way to implement it and not promote RDM I would be for it, but yeah im neither for it or against at the time im writing this

[Shorty]

I'm somewhat for it, only thing is the requirements should be risen to a much higher standard in order for it to Be RP'd correctly. Ex. 250+ hours, at least 4 RP points and maybe a forum Application for an IC whitelist of some sort. Loads of people have over 150 hours and have not gathered a single RP representing they have what it takes to RP passively as well as aggressively.

And yes there are some IC conversations mostly consisting of hiring well-known PMC to government officials as well as who has certain items etc.

If I pleated properly. It could be well played out, for now though, it's a +\- neutral.

[ArcHammer]

Well, I would like to have Hitman RP on the server, but one thing is that people will abuse it. Some people might say "I killed you because I was hired to do so" but really they're just going around killing anyone because they feel like it, and could use the Hitman RP as an excuse.
It would be nice to be able to hire someone with a great weapon to do my dirty work, but, I know some people won't use it like it's meant to be used..
I'm 50-50 on this one.

[NotSep]

btw, this will probably be closed soon. But I am 100% against due to it being unrealistic and promoting aggressive RP and also NLR.