Future of FL

[Marty]

This is pretty much the nail in the coffin. The more time passes the more people forget and move on.

Your gonna need something with a big big bang.

[Link]

This is pretty much the nail in the coffin. The more time  passes the more people forget and move on.

Your gonna need something with a big big bang.

I get your point, but by the looks of it, we've still got people checking in on the forums regularly, even if nothing's happening (I'm guilty of this).

There's pretty much always a way out of any situation, given the right moves.

But it's certain that whatever is required to fix this situation will require a completely accurate view of the world, and the actual issues at play, and top class analysis, deliberation, planning, execution, and effort.

Doing something like this right takes time, and I don't believe it should be rushed, or done out of sequence for the sake of speed, and trying to avert fatigue, that may or may not exist. The cost/reward likely wouldn't be worth it, as this is our last chance.

I think we all need to give the team space, and trust them to make the right announcements when they're ready. I don't think there's much else we can do that will help.

Though, I do appreciate there's a balance between quietly working on a master plan, and apathy.

[Haarek]

The current rules are in place to create a balanced and fair gameplay experience, and we believe that maintaining these rules is necessary for the health and sustainability of the server. Many of them are in place for a reason and it would not be in the best interest of anyone for us to just disregard most of them. While I'm sure some could argue that it would be entertaining for a week or so, it's just not the experience we want players to have. We want to try and reduce toxicity, this would only increase it.

Many of them are in place for a reason and it would not be in the best interest of anyone for us to just disregard most of them.

I think both of us can agree many of the rules are in place for a reason - all of them of course are.
But with such a dwindling population it might be worth reconsidering some that severely impact how you build bases, raid Etc.

By the way, who's "best interest" are you talking about? It might be worth considering - because there isn't a lot of reference on the server.

While I'm sure some could argue that it would be entertaining for a week or so, it's just not the experience we want players to have.

It would certainly be entertaining. But nothing would be perfect that week. Point is you would try to adjust a ruleset as you realise inherent problems. I honestly don't think anyone knows for sure what experience the non-existent player base wants to have? Stuff needs to be tried out and tested - this is just a suggestion.

We want to try and reduce toxicity, this would only increase it.

I think we need to be honest of what kind of player base we are catering to;

Garry´s Mod is mainly compromised of 14 - 30 year old guys. I have never encountered a game with more hostility and insults in my life.

Allowing most toxicity would probably benefit the playercount short and long-term.

[Infernaw]

It makes me very happy to see some of you are still around. Whether that be staff, forum lurkers, etc.

It's not uncommon that development teams don't announce dates or teasers this early in their development stage. They did the right thing to take their time with this. I'm honestly surprised FL isn't shut down for good at this point, or transferred to GTA RP.
Thank you for at least trying to "fix" the game somehow.

Nagging and being negative, as if this is a heated political debate, gets us nowhere. I doubt most of the people posting were playing the game at all in recent times anyway. Why does downtime matter? There are plenty of other games and things to do in the meantime.

I'm wishing the best of luck to the staff team with this. I hope the changes will be good enough for a revisit in the near future.

[L Y N C H Y]

If the update isn't reverting racism and other offensive language to be allowed on the server I don't see the point carrying on you may as well shut this place down.

[I_ARE_APPLE]

Interesting

Is this the real Apple??

Maybe 

[I_ARE_APPLE]

Interesting

omg apple long time no see

Nice to see you again 

[I_ARE_APPLE]

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[Pollux]

If the update isn't reverting racism and other offensive language to be allowed on the server I don't see the point carrying on you may as well shut this place down.

I think we need to be honest of what kind of player base we are catering to;

Garry´s Mod is mainly compromised of 14 - 30 year old guys. I have never encountered a game with more hostility and insults in my life.

Allowing most toxicity would probably benefit the playercount short and long-term.

The current racism and toxicity rule is one of the few things we refuse to compromise on. I honestly wouldn't revert the rule even if it would give us a full server. I don't care about just filling a server up, I care about the quality of what actually goes on within it and everyone there having a fun time. I'd rather have fewer players who actually care than a full server that doesn't, as the latter isn't sustainable. FL is meant to be a fun environment for all, not just fun for a few at the expense of others. It's so easy for many of us who've never really experienced racism or harrassment to write it off as it just being the internet, but having spoken to people on the receiving end it's regretful that we ever allowed it. It's a shame that we were genuinely an influence in so many younger players thinking that type of behaviour is acceptable, and I can say we're 100% never going to consider removing the rule.

Lets move on from our racism and toxicity rule, it's really not that hard to follow.

[Haarek]

I honestly wouldn't revert the rule even if it would give us a full server.

Fair enough. I think that ends our discussion