serious fl discussion ideas

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In all fairness V2D wasn't the community favourite which is why we aren't on it - if it obtained the most votes we'd be on it but that wasn't the case.

The "best" and "community favourite" often has no correlation on FL.
That is unfortunately the honest truth.

People say it doesn't help but it does, every time the server has hit above 12 players is because Wolven has sat on the server alone whilst doing other stuff to get the ball rolling, after that spontaneous events happen or events that have already been planned but require a handful of players will commence, its a slow process, but just because some people don't have the patience to let things improve, doesn't mean everyone else should abandon FL on Garry's Mod and switch to a new game to continue FL or just let it die on Garry's Mod. Again its a long process so be patient and think before you blurt out something completely idiotic about someone or something that has zero connection to one another

Having a map like v2d would tremendously help Wolven, and everyone else populate the server faster.

I think there's a needless stigma against v2d right now -
the map seems like a logical choice for the predicament FL is in at the moment.

It could be easier to get the ball rolling on a smaller map like v2d, as it generates more player interaction.

V2D would be nice for nostalgia but it's also a very controversial map which meant it'd be very risky for us to swap to it, it also really not that small with it often feeling much bigger than V4B1 due to it not looping. Siphon has a side-by-side comparison somewhere showing that it's actually the same size if not bigger than V4B1, especially when it comes to driving distances. V4B1 was the safe pick with almost everyone voting for it which is why we went to it, it also has things such as event boxes which makes it easier for the EC team to host events on main - something which I'm sure you'll agree is very vital right now.

I do find it odd that a few of you were at first telling us to swap to V2D as it's what the community wanted, and now that we've swapped to V4B1 (as it turns out the community wanted V4B1) we're being told to ignore what the community wants and go V2D. I don't think there's any way to exactly please everyone here when it comes to the map which is why switching yet again is probably pointless, it's easier to just stay on the map everyone likes or at the very least doesn't mind. I also really do hate the focus on the map, I thought we concluded a while back that the map is just used as a scapegoat for pretty much every other issue?

We've done things for the sake of nostalgia in the past and it usually does wear off pretty quick, one thing that we were looking into was some sort of nostalgia night where we do swap to V2D and an old version of the gamemode on the event server for a bit. If we do end up giving up or once FL is a bit more stable we'll look into finishing that up as it'd be nice.

EDIT: I'd actually like to ask you something, do you genuinely believe V2D would significantly help with FLs situation? I would agree that it'd have short term nostalgia, but we'll likely be on it for a while. We've seen V2D in the past do very well for about a week before completely dying off, do you think it'll be different this time?

How is it a risk for you? You guys litterly lost evry active player.