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05-29-2020, 06:38 PM
(This post was last modified: 09-01-2022, 01:08 AM by Fearless Community.
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(05-29-2020, 02:32 PM)MasterNoda Wrote: Well I wrote out an entire post over the course of 30 minutes but the forums decided to fucking remove it, so thanks dipshit forum programming.
Short recap because I do not want to rewrite it all:
Mass shootings, defined as killing or injuring more than 4 people in a short time, only account for 3% of gun violence deaths in the united states, and that the rate of homicides in the united states is roughly 5 per 100,000 people total, which put the mass shooting rate of death at around 0.15 per 100,000 people.
Most of Europe is around the 1-2 deaths per 100,000 people mark, so clearly there is some issue with American culture that needs to change.
Arkten, those thoughts aren't my own in those examples you pointed out, those were just general thoughts that come from a lot of the American populace in general, so it's not my logic. I had said "there are a large count of people saying", not "I think".
I am personally a proponent of limiting gun ownership to low ammo-count pistols and hunting rifles for self defense, because those get the job of self-defense or hunting done perfectly fine, without opening up room for significant mass shootings. Again, only 3% so those self-defense pistols could still contribute to the other 97% of gun deaths quite easily if we don't limit who can get guns incredibly well.
Fair enough, I should have not attributed the logic towards you.
I like how you point out the gun death per 100,000 people statistic. AFAIK in USA those are indeed 5 where as in Germany they are 0.8 (As you said most of europe is well below the 5.). So I agree, there is something going wrong in American culture that are causing these high numbers. But just pointing it out to the amount of weapons the American population has does not do it justice. The problem at hand is too complex to just break it down to the one-dimensional number of guns in a country. Switzerland has a relatively high amount of guns relative to the people living there and the weapon restrictions are not as strict as most other european countries (Again I am taking Germany as an example here.), however, the gun death rate per 100,000 people is a stunning 0.5! So it simply cannot be the guns.