Should FL Change Map?

[Fultz]

Because the past map changes has proven to be completely pointless and 2d was even offered again, did that work out? Constantly there has been talks of changing maps.. even after maps were changed.. do as noble of a mission you might think you are on; its pointless and no one is gonna be happy. 2d is not gonna work out since players are not idealist in their core but rather what feels fun for them in the spurr of the moment. This endless chatter about map just goes about the same way and whilst I can agree partly to what is being said, there really is no time that people will put this matter to rest no matter the outcome.

The community got what they wanted few times and proved the anticipation of fail right, without faults.. I have tried reforming in some ways, but the community shows what they want by the subconcious actions. 2d was available and no one played on it; and any attempts to revive it was of no avail. Should this not prove enough? Littletown was not a success because the community ultimately showed what they really wanted after they had given it a try. Shouldn't this be enough? 33x vs v5p showed that v5p won because it was more optimtized and more preferable, otherwise the change.. just like little town.. wouldn't of been permanent. This story continues.

You might think people are going to change, but they are not. It would mean you will have to force people onto a map.. which effectively would mean going against a part of the community and that is not of preference in thia daily age of FL and let's face it.. why juggle it all when mentioned options have just been failure?

Take me for a cynical, but some of your ideals are not founded in reality as proven countless of times - no matter how good the intentions are.

So yeah, this is why y'all should give it a rest and realize how pointless it all is.. otherwise the cycle just goes on.

Also who are you even shlomo?  You obviously don't realize the effort in the map question I've had

Your reasoning for why v2d failed is very poor. Going by your logic with v2d failing before is easily countered by the fact that v2p has failed as a map 3 different times until now. Prior to v2p, v33 failed 2 times prior to it being the main map and then again failed.

You say that it is because the players on FL do not want to play them. That is not the reasoning. The biggest reason maps fail is because the staff team decides which map is going to be the main map. If we had littletown as a map here and all the admins quit playing v2p for that map, everyone would start playing on littletown. 

This isnt a pointless argument. The only way this is pointless is if the staff refuse to think about the pros and cons of switching the map. You would be surprised how much the majority of the community cares about which map is in play. As long as staff is on the map, they dont care.