Project New Weapons(Hephaestus)

[Baskingner]

I'm sorry, this is beyond ridiculous.

"This is something that effected gameplay as it made our combat system completely unrealistic and gave players who chose to use 3rd person an advantage over those who used 1st person."

We already discussed this. Third person was available to EVERYONE, therefore it's use did NOT give an advantage over first person. It is a preferential choice. Stop saying this. I'd hardly say it was an exploit and if it was why the *** did it take SoulRipper and Temar over 3 years to acknowledge it and a further 6 months before it was removed?

Just because both options are available to people, doesn't mean that one doesn't give an unfair advantage over the other. You can look around corners and shoot in third person, something you can not do in first. Players should NOT be forced to fight in third person just because fighting in first would result in their death.

The suggested fix for this has been fair. Seeming as third person was used mostly for this exploit, now you fire around corners with less accuracy, something that makes sense seeming as you are not looking down the sights. The community voted not to remove third person shooting, so it hasn't been removed.

Saying 'because it's available for everyone it isn't unfair' is a flawed argument. In real life, legal drugs are available to everyone, but using them while taking part in a sport isn't allowed as it is considered unfair.

"They are available for everyone, so why doesn't everyone take them?!"

Same argument.

Absolutely not the same argument. First of all FL is about having fun, not winning a big price on a sports event. Using drugs there can possibly cause people to lose money while here on FL using 3rd person mode can only cost people some weapons. Drugs is not available for everyone there, if you are a starter you cant afford using dope to be faster/better. Here on FL you only need a Shift and tab button to use this feature.

As defender you have absolutely no advantage currently. The doomfort rules are as vague as you are going to get them but they are clear on one thing "It cant give the defender an advantage", leaving the defender without any possibility to be in the advantage when defending his own home. 

I dont understand why we are discussing this again, the community said they dont want it changed and it still happened, why is that?