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07-25-2015, 02:34 PM
(This post was last modified: 09-01-2022, 01:04 AM by Fearless Community.
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Your name: Blazing
Your blacklist ID: 59294, 59295, 59296
Steam ID: STEAM_0:1:60623768
Reason: Prop-pushing a stuck car without calling an admin first.
Staff member who blacklisted you: [FL] Temar
Reason why you should be unblacklisted: First of all, I'd actually like to describe how much of a pisstake this is. Temar never actually appeared to warn any of us to stop, and simply blacklisted us all at once. After getting blacklisted, I PMed Temar to explain how I did send an admin call about two minutes prior to my blacklist to remove disconnected player props so I could get rid of a raided house with the contraband inside and it was ignored. As a result, I implied that admins were busy and/or unavailable. Seemingly not the case; Temar was "too busy" to respond to my very simple request [it's not hard to type in a simple command] yet not busy enough to blacklist me and the two or three other players [at this point, this seems like an admin abuse request but it's not, I'm just annoyed at the circumstances], and so I went on to help the Corleones to get their car unstuck after learning what was the problem [allowed according to rule 6.8b AND common sense]. However, considering that my prior admin requests only TWO MINUTES ago were ignored, I would think that it's not unreasonable to make an assumption that admins were busy/unavailable. You can see the evidence in the screenshots below [I've highlighted the important parts]. Clearly, if you were to step into my shoes then you would see that I meant no harm in doing so and only meant to be helpful. Also, if you were in my shoes at the time then you'd be pretty sure that the admins were busy/unavailable and so rule 6.8b would prevail. It's particularly annoying because I was simply trying to help members of the community in doing so.
To be honest, I'm getting tired of this "act first and no questions asked" attitude. I feel that if somebody is blacklisted, they should be able to explain their actions to the admin who blacklisted them in real time and receive a response rather than simply being ignored with the admin failing to take responsibility for their mistake. I can deal with the one hour of blacklist; I know that it will have passed by the time that this unblacklist request is dealt with, but I just don't like how this goes on my record when I'm completely innocent.
Perhaps this could even be prevented if admins PMed the player who sent the request to let them know that their request was received by them and will be dealt with very shortly. I know that Rolorox has done this previously in my experience.
TL;DR:
- Prior to the incident, I called an admin to remove disconnected player props
- No response was given
- About two minutes later, I saw Corleones trying to get a car unstuck. I helped them as I made the assumption that admins were busy/unavailable due to my admin call being ignored.
- Got blacklisted for this even though rule 6.8b allows this in my circumstance.
- Pissed off because I was only trying to help and the admin in question seemed too busy to respond to my admin calls previously, yet not busy enough to blacklist myself amongst others.
Pieces of Evidence:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/fi...=487906366
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/fi...=487906265
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/fi...=487906300
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/fi...=487906336
Your blacklist ID: 59294, 59295, 59296
Steam ID: STEAM_0:1:60623768
Reason: Prop-pushing a stuck car without calling an admin first.
Staff member who blacklisted you: [FL] Temar
Reason why you should be unblacklisted: First of all, I'd actually like to describe how much of a pisstake this is. Temar never actually appeared to warn any of us to stop, and simply blacklisted us all at once. After getting blacklisted, I PMed Temar to explain how I did send an admin call about two minutes prior to my blacklist to remove disconnected player props so I could get rid of a raided house with the contraband inside and it was ignored. As a result, I implied that admins were busy and/or unavailable. Seemingly not the case; Temar was "too busy" to respond to my very simple request [it's not hard to type in a simple command] yet not busy enough to blacklist me and the two or three other players [at this point, this seems like an admin abuse request but it's not, I'm just annoyed at the circumstances], and so I went on to help the Corleones to get their car unstuck after learning what was the problem [allowed according to rule 6.8b AND common sense]. However, considering that my prior admin requests only TWO MINUTES ago were ignored, I would think that it's not unreasonable to make an assumption that admins were busy/unavailable. You can see the evidence in the screenshots below [I've highlighted the important parts]. Clearly, if you were to step into my shoes then you would see that I meant no harm in doing so and only meant to be helpful. Also, if you were in my shoes at the time then you'd be pretty sure that the admins were busy/unavailable and so rule 6.8b would prevail. It's particularly annoying because I was simply trying to help members of the community in doing so.
To be honest, I'm getting tired of this "act first and no questions asked" attitude. I feel that if somebody is blacklisted, they should be able to explain their actions to the admin who blacklisted them in real time and receive a response rather than simply being ignored with the admin failing to take responsibility for their mistake. I can deal with the one hour of blacklist; I know that it will have passed by the time that this unblacklist request is dealt with, but I just don't like how this goes on my record when I'm completely innocent.
Perhaps this could even be prevented if admins PMed the player who sent the request to let them know that their request was received by them and will be dealt with very shortly. I know that Rolorox has done this previously in my experience.
TL;DR:
- Prior to the incident, I called an admin to remove disconnected player props
- No response was given
- About two minutes later, I saw Corleones trying to get a car unstuck. I helped them as I made the assumption that admins were busy/unavailable due to my admin call being ignored.
- Got blacklisted for this even though rule 6.8b allows this in my circumstance.
- Pissed off because I was only trying to help and the admin in question seemed too busy to respond to my admin calls previously, yet not busy enough to blacklist myself amongst others.
Pieces of Evidence:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/fi...=487906366
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/fi...=487906265
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/fi...=487906300
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/fi...=487906336
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