(07-26-2018, 10:24 PM)Pollux Wrote:

(07-26-2018, 06:50 PM)GHOSTK1LL3R Wrote:

(07-26-2018, 05:05 PM)TheSiphon Wrote: Cops only had USPs and the sergeant had a MP5 before the locker system. SRU had UMPs if I remember correctly.
Though returning to that kind of system would shift the balance way too much.

I don't think it would at-all, government won raids before the update and they can do it again

We're not returning to the old system as the current one is balanced. Cops shouldn't have a big risk as they also don't have a big reward.

On the topic of V4B1 I think it will solve the two main issues with V2D, the constant fighting and the horrible passiveRP locations. The mainstreet on V4B1 is amazing and modern, it suits our needs quite well.

(07-26-2018, 10:31 PM)GHOSTK1LL3R Wrote:

(07-26-2018, 10:24 PM)Pollux Wrote:

(07-26-2018, 06:50 PM)GHOSTK1LL3R Wrote:

(07-26-2018, 05:05 PM)TheSiphon Wrote: Cops only had USPs and the sergeant had a MP5 before the locker system. SRU had UMPs if I remember correctly.
Though returning to that kind of system would shift the balance way too much.

I don't think it would at-all, government won raids before the update and they can do it again

We're not returning to the old system as the current one is balanced. Cops shouldn't have a big risk as they also don't have a big reward.

On the topic of V4B1 I think it will solve the two main issues with V2D, the constant fighting and the horrible passiveRP locations. The mainstreet on V4B1 is amazing and modern, it suits our needs quite well.

how can you say that cops and SRU getting free everything is balanced? 

What do they get? contraband destory money, high as salary, can ticket people for money.

They are police they don't need M4's to do their job.

(07-27-2018, 12:27 AM)Pollux Wrote: So? Criminals get 20k an hour with just a full set of contraband, even more if they have a few pots. You can take hostages and mug people too. If it wasn't for the ECM jammer revert some criminals were making 600k an hour. It's balanced. If you go Corleone or Rebel you will also get a good salary alongside contraband, weed and hostage money. Criminals have a high risk but a high reward, cops have a low risk but low reward. They need to be able to fight each other on even grounds for balance and I think it's fair as it is.

(07-27-2018, 07:38 AM)GHOSTK1LL3R Wrote:

(07-27-2018, 12:27 AM)Pollux Wrote: So? Criminals get 20k an hour with just a full set of contraband, even more if they have a few pots. You can take hostages and mug people too. If it wasn't for the ECM jammer revert some criminals were making 600k an hour. It's balanced. If you go Corleone or Rebel you will also get a good salary alongside contraband, weed and hostage money. Criminals have a high risk but a high reward, cops have a low risk but low reward. They need to be able to fight each other on even grounds for balance and I think it's fair as it is.

And that is the issue right there. You think its balance, when its not.

You're not the community, you yourself prefer government RP. Just because you think its balance doesn't mean that is fact and is what is occurring.

(07-27-2018, 08:00 AM)Pollux Wrote: That is also just what you think too though. As a developer, it's my job to make sure the gamemode is balanced by listening to the community. You and a few others are the only ones who have claimed there is no balance when it comes to Government and Criminals while the many others seem fine with it. This is off the topic of this discussion thread though.V4B1 will be ready very quickly if we decide to switch to it due to most things being set up. I think it really seems like the best option at this point as it's obvious a change needs to happen soon. V2D was called a temporary change anyway so no one should be surprised if we do switch.

(07-27-2018, 08:13 AM)Yonno Wrote: Can we stay on topic please, and not tell Developers how to do their job or discuss whether or not the Government is OP? This is about the map V4B1, feel free to create your own thread.

(07-27-2018, 08:09 AM)GHOSTK1LL3R Wrote:

(07-27-2018, 08:00 AM)Pollux Wrote: That is also just what you think too though. As a developer, it's my job to make sure the gamemode is balanced by listening to the community. You and a few others are the only ones who have claimed there is no balance when it comes to Government and Criminals while the many others seem fine with it. This is off the topic of this discussion thread though.V4B1 will be ready very quickly if we decide to switch to it due to most things being set up. I think it really seems like the best option at this point as it's obvious a change needs to happen soon. V2D was called a temporary change anyway so no one should be surprised if we do switch.

You're only a developer. As a developer its your job to be told what to do and do bug reports raised. Its not your choice to choose where there is balance as this is something the staff team/community should decide.

https://www.fearlessrp.net/showthread.php?tid=86265
https://www.fearlessrp.net/showthread.php?tid=86687
https://www.fearlessrp.net/showthread.php?tid=85607
https://www.fearlessrp.net/showthread.php?tid=85532

( You wanted SWAT van fully bulletproof and wanted SRU to get famas for free, shows your thoughts on balance?!?!?!)


Lucky some of these suggestions you raised where when you was contributor/FL member so we was able to like a normal person on the server tell you had to raise them vai the suggestions page and get declined like they rightfully should.


However, as we can see from your recent updates to government (why is this riot shield still a thing?) you're wanting to make them some powerhouse where new players will literally have zero chance against an attacking government force.
Just because you think its 'fair' and 'balance' 100% doesn't mean it is.