(08-24-2016, 03:42 PM)Greed^ Wrote:

(08-24-2016, 03:38 PM)Random Wrote: Y'all only think about the actual demotion itself, not anything past that..

So they demote everyone inactive*?What then? There may not be anyone qualified to take the spot as a mod (or higher) at this moment of time..

Give this a moment, it will probably all play out OK.

Edit: Edited a bit where the * is.

I can point out loads of people who "qualify", and even though they don't fit into what the staff team considers the perfect candidate, I am sure there's loads of people who would do a better job as a moderator than a lot of the current team does

(08-24-2016, 03:47 PM)Random Wrote:

(08-24-2016, 03:42 PM)Greed^ Wrote:

(08-24-2016, 03:38 PM)Random Wrote: Y'all only think about the actual demotion itself, not anything past that..

So they demote everyone inactive*?What then? There may not be anyone qualified to take the spot as a mod (or higher) at this moment of time..

Give this a moment, it will probably all play out OK.

Edit: Edited a bit where the * is.

I can point out loads of people who "qualify", and even though they don't fit into what the staff team considers the perfect candidate, I am sure there's loads of people who would do a better job as a moderator than a lot of the current team does

What you think and what the staff team thinks is something completley diffrent though..

There's clearly some sort of issue demoting the inactive ones, or else it would've been done. Don't ya think?

(08-24-2016, 03:47 PM)Random Wrote:

(08-24-2016, 03:42 PM)Greed^ Wrote:

(08-24-2016, 03:38 PM)Random Wrote: Y'all only think about the actual demotion itself, not anything past that..

So they demote everyone inactive*?What then? There may not be anyone qualified to take the spot as a mod (or higher) at this moment of time..

Give this a moment, it will probably all play out OK.

Edit: Edited a bit where the * is.

I can point out loads of people who "qualify", and even though they don't fit into what the staff team considers the perfect candidate, I am sure there's loads of people who would do a better job as a moderator than a lot of the current team does

What you think and what the staff team thinks is something completley diffrent though..

There's clearly some sort of issue demoting the inactive ones, or else it would've been done. Don't ya think?

(08-24-2016, 03:48 PM)Baskingner Wrote:

(08-24-2016, 03:47 PM)Random Wrote:

(08-24-2016, 03:42 PM)Greed^ Wrote:

(08-24-2016, 03:38 PM)Random Wrote: Y'all only think about the actual demotion itself, not anything past that..

So they demote everyone inactive*?What then? There may not be anyone qualified to take the spot as a mod (or higher) at this moment of time..

Give this a moment, it will probably all play out OK.

Edit: Edited a bit where the * is.

I can point out loads of people who "qualify", and even though they don't fit into what the staff team considers the perfect candidate, I am sure there's loads of people who would do a better job as a moderator than a lot of the current team does

What you think and what the staff team thinks is something completley diffrent though..

There's clearly some sort of issue demoting the inactive ones, or else it would've been done. Don't ya think?

And do you think that reason is ethical or unethical, random?

(08-24-2016, 03:49 PM)Greed^ Wrote:

(08-24-2016, 03:47 PM)Random Wrote:

(08-24-2016, 03:42 PM)Greed^ Wrote:

(08-24-2016, 03:38 PM)Random Wrote: Y'all only think about the actual demotion itself, not anything past that..

So they demote everyone inactive*?What then? There may not be anyone qualified to take the spot as a mod (or higher) at this moment of time..

Give this a moment, it will probably all play out OK.

Edit: Edited a bit where the * is.

I can point out loads of people who "qualify", and even though they don't fit into what the staff team considers the perfect candidate, I am sure there's loads of people who would do a better job as a moderator than a lot of the current team does

What you think and what the staff team thinks is something completley diffrent though..

There's clearly some sort of issue demoting the inactive ones, or else it would've been done. Don't ya think?

And why do you point out that issue like it's my problem? It's clearly the admin teams problem, and  they need to do something about it, as it's making people leave and it ruins peoples experience on the gamemode

(08-24-2016, 03:53 PM)Immo Wrote: To the thing about not enough people qualified:

Maybe promote some who are thought as candidates, give them some advice, teach them, and if you're too insecure, only let them moderatore  when they're with an SA / a mentor?
Ideas and possible solutions, not restrictions.

(08-24-2016, 03:57 PM)Random Wrote:

(08-24-2016, 03:48 PM)Baskingner Wrote:

(08-24-2016, 03:47 PM)Random Wrote:

(08-24-2016, 03:42 PM)Greed^ Wrote:

(08-24-2016, 03:38 PM)Random Wrote: Y'all only think about the actual demotion itself, not anything past that..

So they demote everyone inactive*?What then? There may not be anyone qualified to take the spot as a mod (or higher) at this moment of time..

Give this a moment, it will probably all play out OK.

Edit: Edited a bit where the * is.

I can point out loads of people who "qualify", and even though they don't fit into what the staff team considers the perfect candidate, I am sure there's loads of people who would do a better job as a moderator than a lot of the current team does

What you think and what the staff team thinks is something completley diffrent though..

There's clearly some sort of issue demoting the inactive ones, or else it would've been done. Don't ya think?

And do you think that reason is ethical or unethical, random?

I'm sure there's a good reason behind it. Like I said earlier, if there wasn't a good reason not to demote them, it would've been done.  That's all I'll say..

(08-24-2016, 03:49 PM)Greed^ Wrote:

(08-24-2016, 03:47 PM)Random Wrote:

(08-24-2016, 03:42 PM)Greed^ Wrote:

(08-24-2016, 03:38 PM)Random Wrote: Y'all only think about the actual demotion itself, not anything past that..

So they demote everyone inactive*?What then? There may not be anyone qualified to take the spot as a mod (or higher) at this moment of time..

Give this a moment, it will probably all play out OK.

Edit: Edited a bit where the * is.

I can point out loads of people who "qualify", and even though they don't fit into what the staff team considers the perfect candidate, I am sure there's loads of people who would do a better job as a moderator than a lot of the current team does

What you think and what the staff team thinks is something completley diffrent though..

There's clearly some sort of issue demoting the inactive ones, or else it would've been done. Don't ya think?

And why do you point out that issue like it's my problem? It's clearly the admin teams problem, and  they need to do something about it, as it's making people leave and it ruins peoples experience on the gamemode

I did not mean it like that, Greed. And I agree with you, how the staff team acts and and their activity will give new players a vision about the server.

..But it is also up to us "normal" players to help out new people and make them understand the server and the gamemode.

(08-24-2016, 03:53 PM)Immo Wrote: To the thing about not enough people qualified:

Maybe promote some who are thought as candidates, give them some advice, teach them, and if you're too insecure, only let them moderatore  when they're with an SA / a mentor?
Ideas and possible solutions, not restrictions.

(08-24-2016, 04:00 PM)Greed^ Wrote:

(08-24-2016, 03:57 PM)Random Wrote:

(08-24-2016, 03:48 PM)Baskingner Wrote:

(08-24-2016, 03:47 PM)Random Wrote:

(08-24-2016, 03:42 PM)Greed^ Wrote: I can point out loads of people who "qualify", and even though they don't fit into what the staff team considers the perfect candidate, I am sure there's loads of people who would do a better job as a moderator than a lot of the current team does

What you think and what the staff team thinks is something completley diffrent though..

There's clearly some sort of issue demoting the inactive ones, or else it would've been done. Don't ya think?

And do you think that reason is ethical or unethical, random?

I'm sure there's a good reason behind it. Like I said earlier, if there wasn't a good reason not to demote them, it would've been done.  That's all I'll say..

(08-24-2016, 03:49 PM)Greed^ Wrote:

(08-24-2016, 03:47 PM)Random Wrote:

(08-24-2016, 03:42 PM)Greed^ Wrote: I can point out loads of people who "qualify", and even though they don't fit into what the staff team considers the perfect candidate, I am sure there's loads of people who would do a better job as a moderator than a lot of the current team does

What you think and what the staff team thinks is something completley diffrent though..

There's clearly some sort of issue demoting the inactive ones, or else it would've been done. Don't ya think?

And why do you point out that issue like it's my problem? It's clearly the admin teams problem, and  they need to do something about it, as it's making people leave and it ruins peoples experience on the gamemode

I did not mean it like that, Greed. And I agree with you, how the staff team acts and and their activity will give new players a vision about the server.

..But it is also up to us "normal" players to help out new people and make them understand the server and the gamemode.

New player joins, first thing he sees is a propclimber, and 5 minutes later he gets RDMed. Either there's no staff members on, or he simply doesn't get a response after repeatedly sending @ calls
How am I supposed to help him then? Cause the only way I can think off is to talk about the main issue which the point of this thread is

(08-24-2016, 04:04 PM)Random Wrote:

(08-24-2016, 04:00 PM)Greed^ Wrote:

(08-24-2016, 03:57 PM)Random Wrote:

(08-24-2016, 03:48 PM)Baskingner Wrote:

(08-24-2016, 03:47 PM)Random Wrote: What you think and what the staff team thinks is something completley diffrent though..

There's clearly some sort of issue demoting the inactive ones, or else it would've been done. Don't ya think?

And do you think that reason is ethical or unethical, random?

I'm sure there's a good reason behind it. Like I said earlier, if there wasn't a good reason not to demote them, it would've been done.  That's all I'll say..

(08-24-2016, 03:49 PM)Greed^ Wrote:

(08-24-2016, 03:47 PM)Random Wrote: What you think and what the staff team thinks is something completley diffrent though..

There's clearly some sort of issue demoting the inactive ones, or else it would've been done. Don't ya think?

And why do you point out that issue like it's my problem? It's clearly the admin teams problem, and  they need to do something about it, as it's making people leave and it ruins peoples experience on the gamemode

I did not mean it like that, Greed. And I agree with you, how the staff team acts and and their activity will give new players a vision about the server.

..But it is also up to us "normal" players to help out new people and make them understand the server and the gamemode.

New player joins, first thing he sees is a propclimber, and 5 minutes later he gets RDMed. Either there's no staff members on, or he simply doesn't get a response after repeatedly sending @ calls
How am I supposed to help him then? Cause the only way I can think off is to talk about the main issue which the point of this thread is

Again.. Help him/her getting used to the gamemode. Make him/her feel welcome.. Instruct the person about the rules, help them set up a good RP.. I know it can be tough getting them to listen to you, but give it a shot.

(08-24-2016, 04:05 PM)Greed^ Wrote:

(08-24-2016, 04:04 PM)Random Wrote:

(08-24-2016, 04:00 PM)Greed^ Wrote:

(08-24-2016, 03:57 PM)Random Wrote:

(08-24-2016, 03:48 PM)Baskingner Wrote: And do you think that reason is ethical or unethical, random?

I'm sure there's a good reason behind it. Like I said earlier, if there wasn't a good reason not to demote them, it would've been done.  That's all I'll say..

(08-24-2016, 03:49 PM)Greed^ Wrote: And why do you point out that issue like it's my problem? It's clearly the admin teams problem, and  they need to do something about it, as it's making people leave and it ruins peoples experience on the gamemode

I did not mean it like that, Greed. And I agree with you, how the staff team acts and and their activity will give new players a vision about the server.

..But it is also up to us "normal" players to help out new people and make them understand the server and the gamemode.

New player joins, first thing he sees is a propclimber, and 5 minutes later he gets RDMed. Either there's no staff members on, or he simply doesn't get a response after repeatedly sending @ calls
How am I supposed to help him then? Cause the only way I can think off is to talk about the main issue which the point of this thread is

Again.. Help him/her getting used to the gamemode. Make him/her feel welcome.. Instruct the person about the rules, help them set up a good RP.. I know it can be tough getting them to listen to you, but give it a shot.

But how would that help them, if the  first thing they see is that this server is infested with minges, and there's no staff members on at all?

Befriend them, show them the good side of FL, you yourself know the gamemode and rules very well. Carry on your knowledge to newer players!

I know for a fact that if I joined a server and saw this, I would without doubt never come back again, if I knew I would have to accept the fact that people break the rules and there's nothing I can do about it but to constantly record and waste my day posting PRs

Instead of reporting them, how about telling them what they did wrong, and that they may be punished for it in the future? Theres plenty of options on how you want to "treat" new people.