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RE: Report: [FL:RP] Awestruck - NightHawkd - 10-07-2015
You can either produce the video or actions will be taken. We know that those screenshots are not from other screenshots. And if they are then I want to see the "unedited" versions of those screenshots.
Thank you,
NightHawkd
Fearless Admin
RE: Report: [FL:RP] Awestruck - Awestruck - 10-07-2015
Grub has made this clear, but thank you for your input.
RE: Report: [FL:RP] Awestruck - NightHawkd - 10-07-2015
Well I just thought that I would say it again as well as state that if it was a screenshot then please do post the unedited versions of the screenshots.
RE: Report: [FL:RP] Awestruck - Awestruck - 10-07-2015
According to Grub, its blatantly a video, because he knows. The way Ban Requests work have just totally gone out of the window on this one.
I shall converse with GHOSTK1LL3R and ask whether they were actually screenshots or if it was screenshots from a video.
RE: Report: [FL:RP] Awestruck - NightHawkd - 10-07-2015
Well honestly we are allowed to request the full evidence Awestruck and there is no need for you to ask Ghost. Let him know he needs to post it or just to reply to this thread if he has any more questions.
RE: Report: [FL:RP] Awestruck - Awestruck - 10-07-2015
Just a note: Just because you request evidence, it doesn't mean that it exists. This does not mean the person is guilty. I will tell GHOSTK1LL3R to reply. It may be later on today.
RE: Report: [FL:RP] Awestruck - NightHawkd - 10-07-2015
That is fine. We figured that it may not be until later in the day that it would receive a reply but we have looked into this quite a bit before posting what we have posted.
RE: Report: [FL:RP] Awestruck - Awestruck - 10-07-2015
As from what I'm getting from Grub's reply, I feel that if there is no video evidence, action will be taken anyway. So what am I to do!?
RE: Report: [FL:RP] Awestruck - NightHawkd - 10-07-2015
We will not make any decisions until we hear from Ghost. So unless you yourself have a video proving that you are innocent and it was merely only crossfire then please do post it and this can all end but as it stands right now there isn't sufficient evidence to deny this ban request.
RE: Report: [FL:RP] Awestruck - User 12049 - 10-07-2015
(10-07-2015, 07:08 AM)NightHawkd Wrote: We will not make any decisions until we hear from Ghost. So unless you yourself have a video proving that you are innocent and it was merely only crossfire then please do post it and this can all end but as it stands right now there isn't sufficient evidence to deny this ban request.
I only have a few screenshots(posted the ones that were relevant). There is zero point in me publishing the full unedited versions as I only cropped out the full thing so I can show you what we're looking at.
Also, you state this : 'stands right now there isn't sufficient evidence to deny this ban request.'. Explain to me how yourself and Grub have decided that there is ins't evidence to prove his innocence. The facts stand that they were near a gun fight and they got hit 3 times. They have no proof Awestruck aimed at them specifically or it was intentional.
This is why Ivan closed this case because there was no evidence to prove Awestruck hit him on purpose. This is also why Audacter didn't ban Awestruck in game also.
'3. Evidence is a requirement, do not request log checks, include solid evidence for your report or do not post one. '
This is a rule of the ban request forums. Rims nor Budy have provided any solid evidence that Awestruck intentionally shot Rims. The only evidence is the logs which show the damage but you cannot prove that it wasn't crossfire.
I am requesting Tempski and Audacter to comment on why they didn't ban Awestruck because NIghthawk and you Grub are both looking for a reason to ban Awestruck and you have made that perfectly clear.
' right now there isn't sufficient evidence to deny this ban request.'
'Alright. Well Ivan you may not like me here but well I'm here to do things right'
Also, as I said before. The photos of the gas masked person are me and my firing position. Some people were on the flat ground and some people were elevated. It might look like in my screenshots that I had a downward angle does not mean Awestruck did because I told everyone to spread out and Awestruck decided to be on the ground.
Again, I am requesting Tempski and Audacter to re-comment on why they didn't ban Awestruck.
Also, Grub you state 'hard punishment will be taken' etc...But you allow Budy to present a photo he made which made it look like there was no SRU around him. this directly violates this rule:
'5. Fabricating or tampering with evidence with intent to mislead, and providing false statements is under zero tolerance - committing such violations will lead to a perm ban.'
I am also requesting that Grub and NightHawk do not decide what happens in this thread. They both have a personal venteta against Awestruck which is quite obvious from these quotes:
'right now there isn't sufficient evidence to deny this ban request.'
'Alright. Well Ivan you may not like me here but well I'm here to do things right'
This I only assume has been due to this thread that Awestruck posted on NightHawk(notice who denied the admin abuse):
http://www.fearlessrp.net/showthread.php?tid=64900