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[Pollux]

Hello aDisabledDeer,

During this raid we also had a few hostages alongside two of our teammates in the garage/lobby while we were dealing with the labs. The people in the lobby were shot and only one hostage died. Due to this incident we decided not to take any more hostages and to simply kill any government we may find as they didn't honour our hostages either.

You and your friend were killed due to our two teammates being killed up top. We weren't taking hostages and had no reason to keep you alive as you would be useless as a hostage (negotiations were already off). This leaves us with the option of either leaving you alive or killing you, which my character decided to do the latter due to the death of two of our teammates. I don't have to tell you the reason for your death either so this is perfectly fine. If your government members didn't kill our two friends at the top, you wouldn't have died.

I did at first tie your other friend as I only believed one of our teammates died, once I learned it was two I did also execute him.

So as far as I know Xtremefighter was killed, as Chumps had said - so someone broke FearRP to kill him, that's why Rockdad teleported to him (as you can see in the video), that means that  stops being an RP situation.

You then come down the labs, which is another RP situation all together, and without hesitation, warning, or any RP at all, kill the other raiding group, start shooting me, look at my name, and then finish me off.

I believe both Chumps and Xtremefighter died. The RP sit still happened as it wasn't voided for Chumps or Xtremefighter, they still died and had NLR. The cop in question also wasn't punished until a bit later, how was I meant to know who that cop even was and that Rockdad TPed to him? At the time of your death that entire situation was incharacter and your death was perfectly valid.

Well it wasn't valid was it.

Without any RP at all you immediately come down to the labs, and kill 2 hostages (that weren't your hostages), you just walked in, killed the other raiding group who had held us hostage, and then killed me and Huskii.

And? We could kill the raiders as they're another party who were acting quite aggressive towards us (this topic was already dealt with ingame alongside Rockdad) and could kill any Government due to them already opening fire on us, killing us and them quite obviously not caring about any hostages we may have. We had our reasons which were perfectly valid.

[aDisabledDeer]

Hello aDisabledDeer,

During this raid we also had a few hostages alongside two of our teammates in the garage/lobby while we were dealing with the labs. The people in the lobby were shot and only one hostage died. Due to this incident we decided not to take any more hostages and to simply kill any government we may find as they didn't honour our hostages either.

You and your friend were killed due to our two teammates being killed up top. We weren't taking hostages and had no reason to keep you alive as you would be useless as a hostage (negotiations were already off). This leaves us with the option of either leaving you alive or killing you, which my character decided to do the latter due to the death of two of our teammates. I don't have to tell you the reason for your death either so this is perfectly fine. If your government members didn't kill our two friends at the top, you wouldn't have died.

I did at first tie your other friend as I only believed one of our teammates died, once I learned it was two I did also execute him.

So as far as I know Xtremefighter was killed, as Chumps had said - so someone broke FearRP to kill him, that's why Rockdad teleported to him (as you can see in the video), that means that  stops being an RP situation.

You then come down the labs, which is another RP situation all together, and without hesitation, warning, or any RP at all, kill the other raiding group, start shooting me, look at my name, and then finish me off.

I believe both Chumps and Xtremefighter died. The RP sit still happened as it wasn't voided for Chumps or Xtremefighter, they still died and had NLR. The cop in question also wasn't punished until a bit later, how was I meant to know who that cop even was and that Rockdad TPed to him? At the time of your death that entire situation was incharacter and your death was perfectly valid.

Well it wasn't valid was it.

Without any RP at all you immediately come down to the labs, and kill 2 hostages (that weren't your hostages), you just walked in, killed the other raiding group who had held us hostage, and then killed me and Huskii.

And? We could kill the raiders as they're another party who were acting quite aggressive towards us (this topic was already dealt with ingame alongside Rockdad) and could kill any Government due to them already opening fire on us and killing us and them quite obviously not caring about any hostages we may have. We had our reasons which were perfectly valid.

So you're fine with admitting you also broke FearRP? As the other raiding group had told you to stay back as they had hostages, and then you walked in and murder me.

Nice RP by the way, even if you had a valid reason to kill 2 surrendered hostages (which you flat out did not), you just walked in and started shooting without saying anything.

[Pollux]

So as far as I know Xtremefighter was killed, as Chumps had said - so someone broke FearRP to kill him, that's why Rockdad teleported to him (as you can see in the video), that means that  stops being an RP situation.

You then come down the labs, which is another RP situation all together, and without hesitation, warning, or any RP at all, kill the other raiding group, start shooting me, look at my name, and then finish me off.

I believe both Chumps and Xtremefighter died. The RP sit still happened as it wasn't voided for Chumps or Xtremefighter, they still died and had NLR. The cop in question also wasn't punished until a bit later, how was I meant to know who that cop even was and that Rockdad TPed to him? At the time of your death that entire situation was incharacter and your death was perfectly valid.

Well it wasn't valid was it.

Without any RP at all you immediately come down to the labs, and kill 2 hostages (that weren't your hostages), you just walked in, killed the other raiding group who had held us hostage, and then killed me and Huskii.

And? We could kill the raiders as they're another party who were acting quite aggressive towards us (this topic was already dealt with ingame alongside Rockdad) and could kill any Government due to them already opening fire on us and killing us and them quite obviously not caring about any hostages we may have. We had our reasons which were perfectly valid.

So you're fine with admitting you also broke FearRP? As the other raiding group had told you to stay back as they had hostages, and then you walked in and murder me.

Nice RP by the way, even if you had a valid reason to kill 2 surrendered hostages (which you flat out did not), you just walked in and started shooting without saying anything.

Why on earth would we ever care about two SRU hostages? We're against the government and the other party raiding (RockDad also already covered this and agreed). What do you want us to do? Pay for them?

Seriously at this point you're just trying to pull anything you can out to try and get me punished, it's honestly pathetic. At this point i'm going to stop replying unless an admin asks me to, as trying to understand your reasoning to this being a rule breakage is giving me a headache.

[Huskii]

I believe both Chumps and Xtremefighter died. The RP sit still happened as it wasn't voided for Chumps or Xtremefighter, they still died and had NLR. The cop in question also wasn't punished until a bit later, how was I meant to know who that cop even was and that Rockdad TPed to him? At the time of your death that entire situation was incharacter and your death was perfectly valid.

Well it wasn't valid was it.

Without any RP at all you immediately come down to the labs, and kill 2 hostages (that weren't your hostages), you just walked in, killed the other raiding group who had held us hostage, and then killed me and Huskii.

And? We could kill the raiders as they're another party who were acting quite aggressive towards us (this topic was already dealt with ingame alongside Rockdad) and could kill any Government due to them already opening fire on us and killing us and them quite obviously not caring about any hostages we may have. We had our reasons which were perfectly valid.

So you're fine with admitting you also broke FearRP? As the other raiding group had told you to stay back as they had hostages, and then you walked in and murder me.

Nice RP by the way, even if you had a valid reason to kill 2 surrendered hostages (which you flat out did not), you just walked in and started shooting without saying anything.

Why on earth would we ever care about two SRU hostages? We're against the government and the other party raiding (RockDad also already covered this and agreed). What do you want us to do? Pay for them?

Seriously at this point you're just trying to pull anything you can out to try and get me punished, it's honestly pathetic. At this point i'm going to stop replying unless an admin asks me to, as trying to understand your reasoning to this being a rule breakage is giving me a headache.

It's very simple. You came down, whilst we had previously given up way before your group had raided. We were hostages of the first group and you were then in a confrontation with the first raiding group. Instead of RPing any situation whatsoever you ran in and just started shooting, killing the raiding group, myself and deer in the process.

We also had no weapons out and our hands up. Please refer to 3.1a Violence should always be the last option. to help you understand

[EmM]

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Pollux, violence should be the last option and you just coming in with just the intent to just kill people and show no hostility to people surrendering is kill hungry. Yes, you may have had many government workers shooting at you but the ones we had down in the labs had no intent to kill us and were simply surrendering. 

You guys also killed me and Arch for no apparent reason. We were doing the same exact thing as you - Raiding the Dictator. 
So, my question is what was your reason for killing us? Considering we showed no threat to you whatsoever and we also stated to Wolven "We are raiding for the same reason, we're not going to kill you" 

We showed in many ways that we're friendly's yet you still shoot us.

[Huskii]

We weren't taking hostages

Pollux you have also just lied in the courthouse as you tied me up with hostage rope before killing me about 30 seconds later.

[EmM]

We weren't taking hostages

Pollux you have also just lied in the courthouse as you tied me up with hostage rope before killing me about 30 seconds later.

They also took SirNarc hostage who was with Arch and I. SirNarc got mugged of $500 and someone in your group refused to let him go.

[Divey]

Hi, first of all thank you for bringing this to our attention and I apologies for the wait!

After reviewing the report and inspecting the evidence provided and allowing people to explain their side of the story I have come to the conclusion that there was only one rule breakage as apart of this case, this being RDM. Although the hostage situation was messy and you were a criminal Pollux it gave you no excuse to shoot down these unarmed government workers, they seemingly posed no threats, with their hands in the air and as always violence should be the last option, the situation was not role played out in any manner and was simply a shoot and go.

The user in question will receive a 2 day ban as their punishment.