Abuse Report .- [FL] Venom
#1
Name: [FL:RP] equalizer


Time/Date: 04/07/2015 01:07:03 (CEST)



Steam ID: STEAM_0:1:40601685



Name of Administrator: [FL] Venom



Summary: 



Quote:The following points are abuse

  • Using admin tools and constructs for an unfair aggressive advantage unless previously agreed upon by all parties involved for an RP situation.


As seen in the picture below, the accused administrator abused his powers to gain an unfair advantage in a roleplay situation, without prior consent from all parties involved in the roleplay situation. Normal players are not capable of changing their playermodel to a model which comes from another job, therefore making it unfair for all parties involved.



Quote:The following points are abuse

  • Breaking rules himself solely because he is an admin.


As seen in the video below, the accused administrator arrested approximately seven people for the reason; “Obstruction of a PO” without a sufficient roleplay reason. We were being detained at the moment because of previous reports stating we had firearms. After being searched, it was concluded that none of the people who were later arrested had any firearms on their person, thus giving the accused administrator no sufficient roleplay reason to hold us any longer. Regardless of all evidence pointing towards us being innocent, the accused administrator continued to question us, which later lead to our arrest.


Evidence:


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The following evidence was taken from the server logs:



Quote:“(Police Officer Radio) [FL] VENOM: President could you warrant Anthony 'The Crow' Lombardi (74) for an arrest for reason Obstruction of a PO."

v33x[01:14:49][FL] VENOM(STEAM_0:1:42682118) said: /warrant 74 arrest Obstruction of a PO
v33x[01:14:55][FL] VENOM(STEAM_0:1:42682118) said: /warrant 70 arrest Same
v33x[01:14:58][FL] VENOM(STEAM_0:1:42682118) said: /warrant 43 arrest Same
v33x[01:15:02][FL] VENOM(STEAM_0:1:42682118) said: /warrant 29 arrest Same
v33x[01:15:08][FL] VENOM(STEAM_0:1:42682118) said: /warrant 491 arrest Same
v33x[01:15:26][FL] VENOM(STEAM_0:1:42682118) said: /warrant mathi arrest Same
v33x[01:15:32][FL] VENOM(STEAM_0:1:42682118) said: /warrant whatth arrest Same
v33x[01:15:38][FL] VENOM(STEAM_0:1:42682118) said: /warrant field arrest Same
v33x[01:15:42][FL] VENOM(STEAM_0:1:42682118) said: /warrant 1193 arrest Same
v33x[01:15:46][FL] VENOM(STEAM_0:1:42682118) said: /warrant 1270 arrest Same
v33x[01:15:54][FL] VENOM(STEAM_0:1:42682118) said: /warrant olaf arrest Same
v33x[01:16:38][FL] VENOM(STEAM_0:1:42682118) said: /warrant 1219 arrest Same
v33x[01:16:44][FL] VENOM(STEAM_0:1:42682118) said: /warrant zorth arrest Same
v33x[01:16:49][FL] VENOM(STEAM_0:1:42682118) said: /warrant 60 arrest Same
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#2
Under investigation.
Sincerely, Enzyme
Ex-Supervising Administrator
#3
Administrators are able to switch playermodels of themselves or other people upon request, for RP purposes.

There is no difference between him wearing civilian clothing and wearing a suit, merely aesthetics for his RP. Detectives do not always wear suits and there is nothing that says he cannot change his model to fit his role-play.

Also, can I request that the initial 41 minute video posted by Mathias_ be reuploaded, as I saw that that video was deleted and these videos were reposted in segments that took out certain parts of the incident as well as conversations that occurred over TeamSpeak.
#4
The video was cropped since half of it was irrelevant to the case. Nothing in the video was relevant to this specific incident, if you want to watch 20 minutes of us getting a tour in CMR99's Museum about EvoCity's history then sure, I'll have it reuploaded.

The fact that he changed his own model to something unobtainable by normal players, gives him an unfair advantage in any roleplay situation that involves him. Thus making this abuse, in my opinion I might add.
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#5
Here's what happened. I was minding my business when suddenly a ton of requests come in as shown here.



Spoiler :
v33x [00:56:05] [FL:RP] Markus (STEAM_0:1:36038228) said: /request POLICE TO APARTMENTS
v33x [00:56:24] [FL:RP] Markus (STEAM_0:1:36038228) said: /request Guys hitting stuff with baseball bats. I
v33x [00:56:30] [FL:RP] Markus (STEAM_0:1:36038228) said: /request LOMBARDI AT APARTMENTS
v33x [00:56:33] [FL:RP] Markus (STEAM_0:1:36038228) said: /request LOMBARDI AT APARTMENTS
v33x [00:57:07] [FL:RP] Markus (STEAM_0:1:36038228) said: /request in restaurant
v33x [00:57:14] [FL:RP] Markus (STEAM_0:1:36038228) said: /request ground level
v33x [00:58:33] [FL:RP] Markus (STEAM_0:1:36038228) said: /request GUYS WHO TOOK LAST VICE PRESIDENT HOSTAGE ARE IN THE RESTAURANT AT APARTMENTS
v33x [00:58:52] [FL:RP] Markus (STEAM_0:1:36038228) said: /request They got knives
v33x [00:59:08] [FL:RP] Markus (STEAM_0:1:36038228) said: /request guys in restaurant with suit are threatening civilians with knives
v33x [00:59:13] [FL:RP] Markus (STEAM_0:1:36038228) said: /request search them
v33x [01:01:13] [FL:RP] Markus (STEAM_0:1:36038228) said: /request GUNS AT APARTMENTS RESTAURANT
v33x [01:01:25] [FL:RP] Markus (STEAM_0:1:36038228) said: /request They've got guns and are threatening us



Upon receiving all of these calls, I responded to investigate what was going on. When I arrived, I saw multiple members of Lombardi with weapons out, pointing them at civilians outside of the apartments and the restaurant. Backup was quick to the scene and we quickly got a perimeter around the building. We were outside for a good couple minutes which gave you guys more than enough time to holster your weapons.



Spoiler :
v33x [01:03:44] [FL:RP] equalizer (STEAM_0:1:40601685) said: /holster

v33x [01:03:46] [FL] Sir Crow (STEAM_0:0:28584682) said: /holster

v33x [01:03:52] [FL] General Rickets (STEAM_0:1:65599084) said: /holster

v33x [01:03:55] [FL:RP] equalizer (STEAM_0:1:40601685) said: /holster

v33x [01:03:56] Sub-Zero (STEAM_0:1:29008245) said: /holster

v33x [01:03:58] [FL:RP] Mathias_ (STEAM_0:1:29158802) said: /holster

v33x [01:04:03] Mahti (STEAM_0:1:33720627) said: /holster

v33x [01:04:13] Mahti (STEAM_0:1:33720627) said: /holster




Obviously, you guys clearly had weapons like I saw when I arrived. You guys holstered all of your weapons, which would show everyone that was in the building who had the weapons. After we got all you out, you all said nobody had weapons. Therefore, with you guys knowing who had weapons and refusing to tell me, you were obstructing my investigation into the matter. That prompted an arrest warrant to be filed against all of you for obstructing my investigation which is a completely valid arrest.

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As for the model, you say that it was completely an unfair advantage to normal players. What if I had a suit on, how would that make it different? Regular civilians can put suits on, does that mean if I put a suit on to RP as a detective that it's an unfair advantage? We allow people to roleplay as a police officer and go undercover, though they can only wear suits. But does it really make a different if I do a civilian player model, as they can wear the suits too? The argument of it providing an unfair advantage doesn't really make sense in that retrospect. People can request their models to be changed for an RP, and their models get changed a lot of the time. How is this different exactly?


(Also I want to request the 41 minutes to be re uploaded as it is all relevant and would show what happened.)
#6
I'd like to point out right now that Markus not only metagamed but also broke New Life Rule in a significant matter.

1. Markus would have absolutely no clue that we were Lombardi. 
2. Markus died in the raid with the Vice President.


You saying you saw multiple people with weapons out would not be correct, as the only one who ever pulled a weapon was Sir Crow. Not to mention, none of us had knives either, so Markus would be lying about that too.

As for the rest of it, I will reply further tomorrow.
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#7
(07-04-2015, 02:29 AM)equal Wrote: I'd like to point out right now that Markus not only metagamed but also broke New Life Rule in a significant matter.

1. Markus would have absolutely no clue that we were Lombardi. 
2. Markus died in the raid with the Vice President.


You saying you saw multiple people with weapons out would not be correct, as the only one who ever pulled a weapon was Sir Crow. Not to mention, none of us had knives either, so Markus would be lying about that too.

As for the rest of it, I will reply further tomorrow.

I saw at least two people with a weapon out, one being Sir Crow as you pointed out, pointing a gun at civilians outside of the apartment/restaurant. They then retreated into the restaurant. Therefore at least one of you had a weapon which was enough to detain all of you as none of you fessed up to it. Then you all lied about having weapons in general which prompted me to arrest all of you for not telling who had the weapons and lying to me when you guys CLEARLY had weapons. Which, in the US, would classify as obstruction of a PO. 

As quoted from the Washington State Legislature,



(1) A person is guilty of obstructing a law enforcement officer if the person willfully hinders, delays, or obstructs any law enforcement officer in the discharge of his or her official powers or duties.


     (2) "Law enforcement officer" means any general authority, limited authority, or specially commissioned Washington peace officer or federal peace officer as those terms are defined in RCW 10.93.020, and other public officers who are responsible for enforcement of fire, building, zoning, and life and safety codes.

     (3) Obstructing a law enforcement officer is a gross misdemeanor.




[2001 c 308 § 3. Prior: 1995 c 285 § 33; 1994 c 196 § 1; 1975 1st ex.s. c 260 § 9A.76.020.]



Spoiler :
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=9A.76.020




You guys hindered my investigation by not telling me who had the weapons, delayed my investigation and obstructed it in the same way. All of that fits the offense of Obstruction of a PO.
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#8
We the corleones were not involved with anything before the restaurant incident. But here is our part of the story

We corleones was just sitting down in a business meeting with the Lombardi. When suddenly the cops started coming. We continued on with our business meeting. Basically all the corleones were unarmed and sat eating dinner, but still we was treated the same way as the Lombardi Family. Brought out, handcuffed and finally arrested for Obstruction of PO. Now.. I think this is quite unfair, because how were we hindering anything? As mentioned we were only sitting in the restaurant, but were still arrested for Obstruction of PO. None of us were armed and none of us were causing any trouble. Might as well have arrested the chef and the security guards, and the other civilians.

This was the corleone's side of the incident
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also thanks for the "a great friend since 2009" really appreciate it!

How about some Reputation?
#9
Seeing as this case is still open I would like to add some points of interest as I was involved, seen below:

http://puu.sh/j0V0e.jpg

We had been receiving many requests from Markus about the Corleone which prompted me to make a pass of the building in my vehicle. Upon doing so I too clearly saw at least one armed individual. I circled around past the Nexus and by this time I made my second pass Venom had taken cover behind his vehicle with his weapon drawn and other officers were pulling on scene. While requesting SWAT backup an officer (I believe Venom) was yelling for them to come out. If you notice in the picture posted the window is blocked off, this was not originally the case when we first pulled up on scene. While ordering them to come outside someone put the prop up to block the window and I'm assuming this is around the time all the Corleone holstered their weapons before finally opening the door and deciding to cooperate.
#10
Closed. Admin has left the staff team.
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