BR on [FL] Kpred

[Kayak]

From what I gather from your report, you're report Kpred for switching jobs to assist the SRU in the raid against the corleone.

v2d [13:26:43] [FL] Kpred (STEAM_0:1:24527440) has spawned as Citizen
v2d [13:31:17] [FL] Kpred (STEAM_0:1:24527440) has spawned as Corleone Member
v2d [13:32:50] [FL] Kpred (STEAM_0:1:24527440) said: /radio woo!
v2d [13:33:24] [FL] Kpred (STEAM_0:1:24527440) said: /job Cinisi Family - Soldier
v2d [13:33:35] [FL] Kpred (STEAM_0:1:24527440) said: /radio im down the road tell m,e when you get a warratn
v2d [13:33:39] [FL] Kpred (STEAM_0:1:24527440) has used 1 .338 Lapua
v2d [13:33:41] [FL] Kpred (STEAM_0:1:24527440) said: /me takes out a Arctic Warfare Magnum from their backup.
v2d [13:34:12] [FL] Kpred (STEAM_0:1:24527440) Killed: [FL:RP] Smex (STEAM_0:1:18515760) using cw_g4p_awm
v2d [13:34:48] [FL] Kpred (STEAM_0:1:24527440) said: /radio i got one of them
v2d [13:35:25] [FL] Kpred (STEAM_0:1:24527440) said: /inventory health_kit use 1
v2d [13:35:25] [FL] Kpred (STEAM_0:1:24527440) has used 1 health_kit
v2d [13:35:26] [FL] Kpred (STEAM_0:1:24527440) said: /me uses a healthpack to heal his wounds.
v2d [13:35:32] [FL] Kpred (STEAM_0:1:24527440) said: /inventory health_kit use 1
v2d [13:35:32] [FL] Kpred (STEAM_0:1:24527440) has used 1 health_kit
v2d [13:35:33] [FL] Kpred (STEAM_0:1:24527440) said: /me uses a healthpack to heal his wounds.
v2d [13:35:40] Jericho (STEAM_0:1:93949226) Killed: [FL] Kpred (STEAM_0:1:24527440) using cw_ar15

From my logs it doesn't make any sense how Kpred could be assisting the SRU team at all. As you can see in the logs I posted above, Kpred was counter-raiding and wasn't assisting the SRU.

A concern of yours was this:

v2d [13:33:35] [FL] Kpred (STEAM_0:1:24527440) said: /radio im down the road tell m,e when you get a warratn

That message was directed to the Corleone radio and not the SRU. I'm not sure how he powergamed to gain an advantage.

No no, I could understand why you're confused, but my main concern is that he switched to corleone and seemingly powergamed, using his job to RDM Smex (SRU) and gain leverage for them to raid. What I said about him not bothering to change his job, and just go for the kill and leave/die is wrong, and I apologize about that. I see now from what you posted that he did actually change jobs.

[Nacreas]

There's around three minutes between Kpred joining the team and killing Smex. I see no abuse here.

[Kayak]

There's around three minutes between Kpred joining the team and killing Smex. I see no abuse here.

Regardless of the time length between when he joined and killed Smex, he suspiciously joined us, and we never saw from him. He just went behind the white house (iirc, I never saw him anywhere near the villa or gate) and then the police showed up. Why he went to the white house, I have no idea, but it just seemed suspicious that they showed up right after he joined.

He still RDM'd Smex though. As it was stated multiple times, no one gave him the orders to kill him, he just said "tell me when" and shot him when he was like 3 meters from the keypad and clearly not inside.

[Kpred]

I walked right up into the gate, pressed the keypad and walked upstairs and even witnessed you first hand execute the hostage. And like I've already stated, and Smex too, from my position it looked as though there was a threat since as I could see Smex, the other SRU (believe it was Jericho), a Corleone and the Don. I seen the Don get tazed then presumed there was some sort of threat like Smex mentioned.

[Nacreas]

Regardless of the time length between when he joined and killed Smex, he suspiciously joined us

I'm not seeing anything suspicious about it at all. He joined a team, was raided and killed a raider.

[Kayak]

Regardless of the time length between when he joined and killed Smex, he suspiciously joined us

I'm not seeing anything suspicious about it at all. He joined a team, was raided and killed a raider.

As the person who didn't feel like being raided by a full SRU team and police force, seeing one of the SRU members switch to corleone and then kill an SRU without me noticing them once, that's suspicious.

Whatever, if I did this then I guarantee I would've been banned for RDM.

[Nacreas]

Regardless of the time length between when he joined and killed Smex, he suspiciously joined us

I'm not seeing anything suspicious about it at all. He joined a team, was raided and killed a raider.

As the person who didn't feel like being raided by a full SRU team and police force, seeing one of the SRU members switch to corleone and then kill an SRU without me noticing them once, that's suspicious.

Whatever, if I did this then I guarantee I would've been banned for RDM.

He killed a raider who was raiding him, not exactly RDM.

[Kayak]

Regardless of the time length between when he joined and killed Smex, he suspiciously joined us

I'm not seeing anything suspicious about it at all. He joined a team, was raided and killed a raider.

As the person who didn't feel like being raided by a full SRU team and police force, seeing one of the SRU members switch to corleone and then kill an SRU without me noticing them once, that's suspicious.

Whatever, if I did this then I guarantee I would've been banned for RDM.

He killed a raider who was raiding him, not exactly RDM.

He killed an SRU without orders from over 100m away who wasn't raiding. We were talking to them about the NLR from the officer we executed, when suddenly Smex popped. If you guys are going to go to extreme lengths to defend him by checking little things in the logs, check what we were talking about. IIRC, we were having an ooc discussion, that being me and BasicallyMental. 

[Nacreas]

Regardless of the time length between when he joined and killed Smex, he suspiciously joined us

I'm not seeing anything suspicious about it at all. He joined a team, was raided and killed a raider.

As the person who didn't feel like being raided by a full SRU team and police force, seeing one of the SRU members switch to corleone and then kill an SRU without me noticing them once, that's suspicious.

Whatever, if I did this then I guarantee I would've been banned for RDM.

He killed a raider who was raiding him, not exactly RDM.

He killed an SRU without orders from over 100m away who wasn't raiding. We were talking to them about the NLR from the officer we executed, when suddenly Smex popped. If you guys are going to go to extreme lengths to defend him by checking little things in the logs, check what we were talking about. IIRC, we were having an ooc discussion, that being me and BasicallyMental. 

Yeah I agree it was kind of my mistake since I thought I seen a radio call from the Don saying shoot the sru, when i clearly never, and I'm sorry about that. But about all this powergaming accusations, I never intended to join then leave so SRU could have an advantage, I don't understand why you'd think that. - Kpred

[Kayak]

I'm not seeing anything suspicious about it at all. He joined a team, was raided and killed a raider.

As the person who didn't feel like being raided by a full SRU team and police force, seeing one of the SRU members switch to corleone and then kill an SRU without me noticing them once, that's suspicious.

Whatever, if I did this then I guarantee I would've been banned for RDM.

He killed a raider who was raiding him, not exactly RDM.

He killed an SRU without orders from over 100m away who wasn't raiding. We were talking to them about the NLR from the officer we executed, when suddenly Smex popped. If you guys are going to go to extreme lengths to defend him by checking little things in the logs, check what we were talking about. IIRC, we were having an ooc discussion, that being me and BasicallyMental. 

Yeah I agree it was kind of my mistake since I thought I seen a radio call from the Don saying shoot the sru, when i clearly never, and I'm sorry about that. But about all this powergaming accusations, I never intended to join then leave so SRU could have an advantage, I don't understand why you'd think that. - Kpred

Then close the thread I guess. That was an eventful few days. If Kpred is sorry about RDM and faces no punishment for it, then I'll happily apologize in detail for each and every one of my bans to void them.