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RE: Fearless Survey results - mintblackbeard - 10-14-2019
(10-14-2019, 05:56 PM)Dimitris Wrote:I count 22 with same criteria as I mentioned before.(10-14-2019, 05:50 PM)Conn Wrote:(10-14-2019, 05:46 PM)mintblackbeard Wrote:About 57% voted no when they’re removed(10-14-2019, 04:05 PM)Mist Wrote: "Should casinos be banned from the game"
51% says yes. While only 38% said no. Rest said maybe...
Why tho? It has proven to be a great factor that increases players' activity and over-all RP. Wonder how much a change in this will affect the server.
This part of the survey appears heavily influenced by spamming and (likely ) bots. With a quick count, I see around 75 entries with exclusively yes for this option in large groups with around 10 seconds between each entry and only voting in this or in this and the ban wipe vote.
With these removed, you would get a significantly different result.
What about the ban wipe one?
Gives 30.8% no and 46.7% yes for ban wipe. This is much less affected and same result but IDK how staff are checking for botting here.
RE: Fearless Survey results - Dimitris - 10-14-2019
(10-14-2019, 06:07 PM)Grizzly Wrote:(10-14-2019, 05:56 PM)Dimitris Wrote:(10-14-2019, 05:50 PM)Conn Wrote:(10-14-2019, 05:46 PM)mintblackbeard Wrote:About 57% voted no when they’re removed(10-14-2019, 04:05 PM)Mist Wrote: "Should casinos be banned from the game"
51% says yes. While only 38% said no. Rest said maybe...
Why tho? It has proven to be a great factor that increases players' activity and over-all RP. Wonder how much a change in this will affect the server.
This part of the survey appears heavily influenced by spamming and (likely ) bots. With a quick count, I see around 75 entries with exclusively yes for this option in large groups with around 10 seconds between each entry and only voting in this or in this and the ban wipe vote.
With these removed, you would get a significantly different result.
What about the ban wipe one?
Ban wipe doesn't seem to be bot influenced at all tbh
Yea, I also think it's the right call so I am glad to see that it has a high chance to happen now.
RE: Fearless Survey results - mintblackbeard - 10-14-2019
(10-14-2019, 05:46 PM)mintblackbeard Wrote: -SNIP-
Recounting I've counted 80 that vote only in the casino option and by deleting them from a copy of the spreadsheet gives the following graph:
![[Image: 21Bg5o3.png]](https://i.imgur.com/21Bg5o3.png)
Compared to the original:
![[Image: lUcEnFy.png]](https://i.imgur.com/lUcEnFy.png)
RE: Fearless Survey results - Grizzly - 10-14-2019
(10-14-2019, 06:25 PM)Dimitris Wrote:(10-14-2019, 06:07 PM)Grizzly Wrote:(10-14-2019, 05:56 PM)Dimitris Wrote:(10-14-2019, 05:50 PM)Conn Wrote:(10-14-2019, 05:46 PM)mintblackbeard Wrote: This part of the survey appears heavily influenced by spamming and (likely ) bots. With a quick count, I see around 75 entries with exclusively yes for this option in large groups with around 10 seconds between each entry and only voting in this or in this and the ban wipe vote.About 57% voted no when they’re removed
With these removed, you would get a significantly different result.
What about the ban wipe one?
Ban wipe doesn't seem to be bot influenced at all tbh
Yea, I also think it's the right call so I am glad to see that it has a high chance to happen now.
Overlooking it there is 24 bots that only voted on those two, but still mint said it best, it doesn't affect it at all
RE: Fearless Survey results - konsta - 10-14-2019
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<--- someone wants to get paid![[Image: ef12c81686901bad8f26b016a5e0281e.png]](https://wsrv.nl/?url=i.gyazo.com/ef12c81686901bad8f26b016a5e0281e.png&w=1920&h=1080&fit=inside&n=-1&we)
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you just gotta love the survey responses
RE: Fearless Survey results - konsta - 10-14-2019
(10-14-2019, 01:33 PM)SoulRipper Wrote:Just mainly read what people wrote, and you'll get the main idea and see the bigger picture.(10-14-2019, 01:31 PM)Pollux Wrote: 284 responses? Almost like you could fill it in however many times you want...True, not all 284 responses are legit. Some of them are trolls. However, the vast majority of information is useful.
If it would be 200 responses it would already be a lot.
Some of the responses that came to my attention were problems for years (the clans and the guidelines behind them)
RE: Fearless Survey results - Archer - 10-14-2019
man, it's a simple command to do IP checks or anything that would stop people from double-voting yet apparently that was too hard. just shows the exact problem in FL, which is how much Soul (doesn't) care about the community
RE: Fearless Survey results - konsta - 10-14-2019
(10-14-2019, 09:16 PM)Archer Wrote: man, it's a simple command to do IP checks or anything that would stop people from double-voting yet apparently that was too hard. just shows the exact problem in FL, which is how much Soul (doesn't) care about the communityI think he naively trusted the community from double voting and other troll comments
When I was working in a survey last year with the help of Yonno and Grapefruit, my biggest concern was that there wouldn't be too many participants because of the requirement for logging in with Google, there will always be people that are going to be concerned about privacy although the editor will never have access to their information
RE: Fearless Survey results - Haarek - 10-14-2019
(10-14-2019, 09:16 PM)Archer Wrote: man, it's a simple command to do IP checks or anything that would stop people from double-voting yet apparently that was too hard. just shows the exact problem in FL, which is how much Soul (doesn't) care about the community
(10-14-2019, 09:07 PM)MasterNoda Wrote: What a garbage survey. Skewed results, shit questions/answers, quantitative questions being given an "other" option, and loads of people taking the survey multiple times. Outstanding.
It's not that hard to remove spam, you can check for repetitions and what doesn't have any arguments or relevant text in the answers that are not checkboxes. It is literally IN an excel spreadsheet and can be done within a short 20 minutes.
The data is not useless, is the obvious point.
RE: Fearless Survey results - Haarek - 10-14-2019
I will have quite my fun with this. I'll see if I can take up some points that have been argued for.