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Unban Request (Ozman) - Ozman - 08-25-2013
Your name: Ozman
Your ban ID: 36716
Banned by: [FL] Narcotic
Reason: Doomforting, basing in the main city street, FailRP as a rebel - 11th ban, extended.
Involved: [FL:RP] palm jävel!! (STEAM_0:0:35156743)
SkDrag_SugBen (STEAM_0:0:68996670)
jonoflyfi7 (STEAM_0:1:70658702)
Why we should unban you:
Part 1, ''Doomforting''.
I do not see how I was doomforting. I had a litle wall, to stand behind. The shooting hole was big enough to get hit. And I had a Fading Door in front of a normal door, to protect my weed and contraband. The space between was big enough to stay there with 2 people. If you mean the bigger wall near the entrance, that was not my wall.
Part 2, Basing in the Main Street.
When I joined, I made a base at the Rebel Spawn. It was very realistic, as the props I used made it look poor. But then the Leader decided we should move all our stuff to the Offices. So we did. Now I know this was wrong. This is the only part that is true. There were also 2 SRU's basing in the small Security Room at the main floor. On the door stood ''Police Department''. I don't know who they are, but you didn't ban them. So I do not see a reason why you had to ban us.
Part 3, ''FailRP as a Rebel''.
FailRP? Could you please explain that? I do not see how I was FailRPing. Maybe you mean someone else. If not, please tell me how I was Failrping.
Part 4, 11th Ban, extended.
Please check my ban log. You will find out that 2 bans are not mine. They are made by michaelgozman (STEAM_0:1:48993643). That is someone else, My SteamID is STEAM_0:1:48993643. And one ban got lifted. (30937 [FL:RP] Ozman (ban lifted before expired) RDM, backseat admin). When I re-read the rules, I found out that one of my bans is placed without a good reason. I mean the Collaborating with Corleone as Goverment. I will make a unban Request for that later. Then I have 7 bans.
Part 5, The RP Point
So, banning me for 3 months is not enough. You decided to take one of my points. Did you really had to do that? I do not see why that was needed. I really want that point back. There is simply no reason to take it. (and ''You proved that you don't deserve your RP points'', is not nice to say.).
RE: Unban Request (Ozman) - DoomDude1 - 08-25-2013
You were all basing in the Offices as rebels, the entire base did not fit Rebel roleplay.
Ban page Wrote:36716 Ozman STEAM_0:1:43786216 Doomforting, basing in the main city street, FailRP as a rebel - 11th ban, extended.
30937 [FL:RP] Ozman STEAM_0:1:43786216 Steam Profile (ban lifted before expired) RDM, backseat admin
20078 [FL:RP] Ozman STEAM_0:1:43786216 Steam Profile BRA,Making people jump over prop to get inside(BaseRuleViolationRule#9
16013 Ozman STEAM_0:1:43786216 Steam Profile Collaborating with Corleones as Government.
11726 Ozman STEAM_0:1:43786216 Steam Profile Public building
11497 Ozman STEAM_0:1:43786216 Steam Profile Proppushing to get his car back
8894 Ozman STEAM_0:1:43786216 Steam Profile Ban Request Approved
7282 Ozman STEAM_0:1:43786216 Steam Profile Would you kindly NOT drive like a Madman?
7199 Ozman STEAM_0:1:43786216 Steam Profile FailRP
6846 Özman STEAM_0:1:43786216 Steam Profile FailRP, random cuffing admin + taze
6437 Özman STEAM_0:1:43786216 Steam Profile Proppush
I'm sorry, I might have visual issues, but I see 11 bans there, linked to your SteamID.
Your fading door didn't have room for two people to stand side-by-side. You also have over 500h, one would think you knew the rules and knew how to follow them.
RE: Unban Request (Ozman) - Ozman - 08-25-2013
This is what I see, when I search for ''Ozman''.
Quote:36716 Ozman STEAM_0:1:43786216 Steam Profile Doomforting, basing in the main city street, FailRP as a rebel - 11th ban, extended.
3 Months, 2 days, 21 hours
Console
30937 [FL:RP] Ozman STEAM_0:1:43786216 Steam Profile (ban lifted before expired) RDM, backseat admin
2013-05-04 12:20:46
[FL] Temar
30876 michealgozman STEAM_0:1:48993643 Steam Profile 'Propsurfing'
2013-05-02 02:44:55
[FL] Grub
30733 michealgozman STEAM_0:1:48993643 Steam Profile prop pushing cars
2013-04-30 02:41:29
[FL] Jokhah
20078 [FL:RP] Ozman STEAM_0:1:43786216 Steam Profile BRA,Making people jump over prop to get inside(BaseRuleViolationRule#9
2012-12-27 06:56:39
ACP
16013 Ozman STEAM_0:1:43786216 Steam Profile Collaborating with Corleones as Government.
2012-10-24 13:47:36
Ruxandra
11726 Ozman STEAM_0:1:43786216 Steam Profile Public building
2012-06-30 21:19:35
Holdem
11497 Ozman STEAM_0:1:43786216 Steam Profile Proppushing to get his car back
2012-06-25 17:08:00
[FL] Shadow
8894 Ozman STEAM_0:1:43786216 Steam Profile Ban Request Approved
2012-04-21 09:08:17
[FL] Beflok
7282 Ozman STEAM_0:1:43786216 Steam Profile Would you kindly NOT drive like a Madman?
2012-03-06 00:31:28
Flame
7199 Ozman STEAM_0:1:43786216 Steam Profile FailRP
2012-03-04 17:53:42
ForceGhost
RE: Unban Request (Ozman) - aviator - 08-25-2013
If you click on the SteamID, it will load a page showing all of the bans with your SteamID on it. Which is in fact the bans which was shown by DoomDude.
RE: Unban Request (Ozman) - Narc - 08-25-2013
(08-25-2013, 01:13 PM)Ozman Wrote: Part 1, ''Doomforting''.
I do not see how I was doomforting. I had a litle wall, to stand behind. The shooting hole was big enough to get hit. And I had a Fading Door in front of a normal door, to protect my weed and contraband. The space between was big enough to stay there with 2 people. If you mean the bigger wall near the entrance, that was not my wall.
DoomDude and I agreed this would be classified as a double door, as 2 people don't fit the right way in there, it was also one of three fading doors, whilst two is the maximum.
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(08-25-2013, 01:13 PM)Ozman Wrote: Part 2, Basing in the Main Street.
When I joined, I made a base at the Rebel Spawn. It was very realistic, as the props I used made it look poor. But then the Leader decided we should move all our stuff to the Offices. So we did. Now I know this was wrong. This is the only part that is true. There were also 2 SRU's basing in the small Security Room at the main floor. On the door stood ''Police Department''. I don't know who they are, but you didn't ban them. So I do not see a reason why you had to ban us.
This is your unban request, not a ban request, if you feel like someone else has broken the rules, collect evidence and post in the appropiate section.
(08-25-2013, 01:13 PM)Ozman Wrote: Part 3, ''FailRP as a Rebel''.
FailRP? Could you please explain that? I do not see how I was FailRPing. Maybe you mean someone else. If not, please tell me how I was Failrping.
Basing in a big, millionaire office building with advanced tech defense systems?
(08-25-2013, 01:13 PM)Ozman Wrote: Part 4, 11th Ban, extended.
Please check my ban log. You will find out that 2 bans are not mine. They are made by michaelgozman (STEAM_0:1:48993643). That is someone else, My SteamID is STEAM_0:1:48993643. And one ban got lifted. (30937 [FL:RP] Ozman (ban lifted before expired) RDM, backseat admin). When I re-read the rules, I found out that one of my bans is placed without a good reason. I mean the Collaborating with Corleone as Goverment. I will make a unban Request for that later. Then I have 7 bans.
I count 10 bans before the 11th, with the one on top, it makes 11.
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(08-25-2013, 01:13 PM)Ozman Wrote: Part 5, The RP Point
So, banning me for 3 months is not enough. You decided to take one of my points. Did you really had to do that? I do not see why that was needed. I really want that point back. There is simply no reason to take it. (and ''You proved that you don't deserve your RP points'', is not nice to say.).
It's not nice to tell you that breaking the rules has a consequence and your actions proved the fact that you deserve to hold points wrong? Let's face it here, you broke the rules and you was punished for it, you based in the main city street, knowlingly it was breaking the rules, that and the other offences alone are reasons enough to deduct an RP point from your account.
RE: Unban Request (Ozman) - Ozman - 08-25-2013
(08-25-2013, 03:37 PM)Narcotic Wrote: Basing in a big, millionaire office building with advanced tech defense systems?
The building was un-used for some time. So maybe we were squatting (Forgive me if you do not understand this, I am afraid this isn't a good translation). The buildings I made (I am not responsible for the buildings my team made) were simple constructions, with simple textures (See the photo Nacotic made, bare concrete with fence.) If you think a fading door and a keypad is an ''advanced tech defence system'', please provide me with other things I could have done. There are only two ways I can make a door, a fading door and a normal door. I know we shouldn't have been basing in the Offices, but I think that is the only thing I did wrong.
(08-25-2013, 03:37 PM)Narcotic Wrote: DoomDude and I agreed this would be classified as a double door, as 2 people don't fit the right way in there, it was also one of three fading doors, whilst two is the maximum.
When I arrived, I builded this construction. After that, my teammates began doing the same. So when I made the construction shown on the photo, there was no other construction. So next time I start basing with a big team, I have to remove my stuff when someone else is building something? That is not fair. I could get someone banned for building two fading doors near their fading door. And can you prove that it was impossible to stand with two people between the doors? I think it is possible. I will try it out later, and give you the photos.
(08-25-2013, 03:37 PM)Narcotic Wrote: I count 10 bans before the 11th, with the one on top, it makes 11.
If you read the reason of the second ban, you will read (ban lifted before expired) RDM, backseat admin. So this ban is no longer valid, as my Unban Request has been aproved. (I do not know why the ban hasn't been removed, but that is not my fault.) So I have 10 bans.
RE: Unban Request (Ozman) - DoomDude1 - 08-26-2013
The rules are clear on the basing, you may not base on the main city street. Black on white clear.
You had shown no intent on telling your teammates to remove a fading door or alter the base in any way, you just went along with it. I had tested your door while invisible, there was no room for two people side by side.
Also, if a ban is lifted it does not have to be removed from your record. If it was not removed, it is on your ban history ergo, you have (counting this one) 11 bans in total.
RE: Unban Request (Ozman) - Ozman - 08-26-2013
(08-26-2013, 12:14 AM)Doomdude1 Wrote: You had shown no intent on telling your teammates to remove a fading door or alter the base in any way, you just went along with it.
I do not think we can find it back in the logs, but almost immediatly after I finished my gate, I told my teammates that we needed one main gate instead of all the small gates.
(08-26-2013, 12:14 AM)Doomdude1 Wrote: The rules are clear on the basing, you may not base on the main city street. Black on white clear.
(08-26-2013, 12:14 AM)Ozman Wrote: I know we shouldn't have been basing in the Offices, but I think that is the only thing I did wrong.
(08-26-2013, 12:14 AM)Doomdude1 Wrote: Also, if a ban is lifted it does not have to be removed from your record. If it was not removed, it is on your ban history ergo, you have (counting this one) 11 bans in total.
So that means I have my ban extended for an admin's fault? That is strange. I am banned for a very long time becouse an admin banned the wrong player. That is really unfair.
RE: Unban Request (Ozman) - Killjoy - 08-26-2013
"Ban lifted before expired" means it was shortened, not that you were relieved of all charges.
RE: Unban Request (Ozman) - Ozman - 08-26-2013
I made the same construction in a singleplayer game, and I found out that it's easy to fit 3 Combine Elite Soldiers between the doors.
And could you give me the post, thread or rule that states that the 11th ban can be extended?
And why did you give the other rebels much shorter bans? I don't want to get them banned, but you gave us all different ban times. You gave Jonofly 1 week, but SkDrag_SugBen 3 days. And their reason is the same. And why were Palm Javel and I doomforting and Failrping, while Jonofly and SkDrag_SugBen did the same? Why didn't you gave us the same ban times? And I know that my ban is longer as it is my 11th ban.
These are the Ban times you gave us;
(08-26-2013, 07:12 AM)Ban Page Wrote: 36719 jonoflyfi7 STEAM_0:1:70658702 Steam Profile Basing on main city street 5 days, 22 hours [FL] DoomDude1
36718 SkDrag_SugBen STEAM_0:0:68996670 Steam Profile Basing on the main city street 1 day, 22 hours [FL] DoomDude1
36717 [FL:RP] palm jävel!! STEAM_0:0:35156743 Steam Profile Doomforting, basing on the main steet, FailRP Rebel base 12 days, 22 hours [FL] DoomDude1
36716 Ozman STEAM_0:1:43786216 Steam Profile Doomforting, basing in the main city street, FailRP as a rebel - 11th ban, extended. 3 Months, 1 days, 22 hours Console