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RE: [Unofficial] Blackwatch Corporation - Roachy - 10-11-2013
Dear Mr Nicholson,
I am the commanding officer and founder here at Blackwatch Corporation, I have been away from office and left the Corporation in the very fine hands of the other Higher Command Officers such as Lieutenant Colonel Dinosaur. I assure you that none of the attacks that took place were planned, the people who attacked you were certainly not Blackwatch Operatives. I was CCed your letter by the Lt Colonel and have thouroughly read it. Blackwatch do not engage in illegal activites, as we are a Paramilitary Corporation. We have strict set of rules and regulations, however. If your statement is accurate, I would like to know the reason for you wanting to close down the corporation. If I do not receive a reply within 24 hours, then I will have to respectfully decline to shut down. As stated by the Freedom of Information act, I am legally obliged to know what the legitimate reason for shutting down Blackwatch is.
I will leave this with you, and expect a reply ASAP.
Kindest Regards,
General Howard Styx,
Blackwatch Corporation CEO and Founder.
RE: [Unofficial] Blackwatch Corporation - Eisenhorn - 10-11-2013
The reasons have been listed previously, this not a negotiation, you do not get to refuse, the reasons have been listed in communications by myself and Mr Nicholson to your organisation.
As to your reference to the Freedom of Information act, may I remind you of several facts. Namely that Evocity is a constituent of the United States, ergo parliamentary statutes of the United Kingdom do not apply. Secondly as an agency of the United Nations we are only obliged to uphold pertinent laws, and the laws as laid under the articles from the United Nations, under s6(3)d of the article of human rights you are afforded the right to face your accuser, which has been met.
Furthermore the Freedom of Information act, lists the following obligations under s1
''1 General right of access to information held by public authorities.
(1)Any person making a request for information to a public authority is entitled—
(a)to be informed in writing by the public authority whether it holds information of the description specified in the request, and
(b)if that is the case, to have that information communicated to him.
(2)Subsection (1) has effect subject to the following provisions of this section and to the provisions of sections 2, 9, 12 and 14.
(3)Where a public authority—
(a)reasonably requires further information in order to identify and locate the information requested, and
(b)has informed the applicant of that requirement,the authority is not obliged to comply with subsection (1) unless it is supplied with that further information.
(4)The information—
(a)in respect of which the applicant is to be informed under subsection (1)(a), or
(b)which is to be communicated under subsection (1)(b),is the information in question held at the time when the request is received, except that account may be taken of any amendment or deletion made between that time and the time when the information is to be communicated under subsection (1)(b), being an amendment or deletion that would have been made regardless of the receipt of the request.
(5)A public authority is to be taken to have complied with subsection (1)(a) in relation to any information if it has communicated the information to the applicant in accordance with subsection (1)(b).
(6)In this Act, the duty of a public authority to comply with subsection (1)(a) is referred to as “the duty to confirm or deny”.''
As you can see from the above we have no obligation to you under this law, assuming it could even be held applicable to your current situation.
Under s 10 ''10 Time for compliance with request.
(1)Subject to subsections (2) and (3), a public authority must comply with section 1(1) promptly and in any event not later than the twentieth working day following the date of receipt.'' I highlight this to indicate that the 24 hour time frame you indicated is incorrect, and is an attempt to manipulate our offices by subverting the law.
Under section 23 of the aforementioned act.
23 Information supplied by, or relating to, bodies dealing with security matters.
(1)Information held by a public authority is exempt information if it was directly or indirectly supplied to the public authority by, or relates to, any of the bodies specified in subsection (3).
(2)A certificate signed by a Minister of the Crown certifying that the information to which it applies was directly or indirectly supplied by, or relates to, any of the bodies specified in subsection (3) shall, subject to section 60, be conclusive evidence of that fact.
(3)The bodies referred to in subsections (1) and (2) are—
(a)the Security Service,
(b)the Secret Intelligence Service,
©the Government Communications Headquarters,
(d)the special forces,
(e)the Tribunal established under section 65 of the Regulation of M1Investigatory Powers Act 2000,
(f)the Tribunal established under section 7 of the M2Interception of Communications Act 1985,
(g)the Tribunal established under section 5 of the M3Security Service Act 1989,
(h)the Tribunal established under section 9 of the M4Intelligence Services Act 1994,
(i)the Security Vetting Appeals Panel,
(j)the Security Commission,
(k)the National Criminal Intelligence Service, F1. . .
(l)the Service Authority for the National Criminal Intelligence Service.
[(m)the Serious Organised Crime Agency.]
(4)In subsection (3)© “the Government Communications Headquarters” includes any unit or part of a unit of the armed forces of the Crown which is for the time being required by the Secretary of State to assist the Government Communications Headquarters in carrying out its functions.
(5)The duty to confirm or deny does not arise if, or to the extent that, compliance with section 1(1)(a) would involve the disclosure of any information (whether or not already recorded) which was directly or indirectly supplied to the public authority by, or relates to, any of the bodies specified in subsection (3).
As you can see, in the event that this act would apply to the current situation, we are under no obligation to comply, as the Ministry of Peace is a special forces task force from the United Nations.
Further to this under s27, you will see we are further exempt from complying with your request.
27 International relations.
(1)Information is exempt information if its disclosure under this Act would, or would be likely to, prejudice—
(a)relations between the United Kingdom and any other State,
(b)relations between the United Kingdom and any international organisation or international court,
©the interests of the United Kingdom abroad, or
(d)the promotion or protection by the United Kingdom of its interests abroad.
(2)Information is also exempt information if it is confidential information obtained from a State other than the United Kingdom or from an international organisation or international court.
(3)For the purposes of this section, any information obtained from a State, organisation or court is confidential at any time while the terms on which it was obtained require it to be held in confidence or while the circumstances in which it was obtained make it reasonable for the State, organisation or court to expect that it will be so held.
(4)The duty to confirm or deny does not arise if, or to the extent that, compliance with section 1(1)(a)—
(a)would, or would be likely to, prejudice any of the matters mentioned in subsection (1), or
(b)would involve the disclosure of any information (whether or not already recorded) which is confidential information obtained from a State other than the United Kingdom or from an international organisation or international court.
(5)In this section—
“international court” means any international court which is not an international organisation and which is established—
(a)by a resolution of an international organisation of which the United Kingdom is a member, or
(b)by an international agreement to which the United Kingdom is a party;
“international organisation” means any international organisation whose members include any two or more States, or any organ of such an organisation;
“State” includes the government of any State and any organ of its government, and references to a State other than the United Kingdom include references to any territory outside the United Kingdom.
We have stated the reasons for the requirements of your closure multiple times.
I hasten to add, that attempting to confuse the situation by citing irrelevant and inapplicable law in the name of impeding the justice process, will not help your case, or prevent us from taking further affirmative action.
RE: [Unofficial] Blackwatch Corporation - Barkles - 10-11-2013
Dear sir
We understand you have a reason
We just are asking for it it simply in plain English without any laws going with it. We simply need the reasons you have listed simplified
Thanks
Jeff
RE: [Unofficial] Blackwatch Corporation - The Odd Guest - 10-12-2013
What I take from this Lieutenant Colonel, is that nothing we can say short of "we submit to your terms" will prevent the ministry of peace coming down on us with a mighty hammer of justice.
They do not want to negotiate, the only reasonable offer I myself would give them is temporary management of the corporation as so they can help bring back balance to our corporation.
unfortunately I am quite sure they wouldn't accept this offer as in their eyes we are seen as war criminals who should be purged with fire and redemption.
I myself do not doubt the accusations the ministry of peace have made, it is likely that they have hard evidence against us.
I understand Lieutenant that having our men running rampant with guns blazing wasn't in the plans of the corporations higher up's, but responsibility still must be taken.
To the ministry of peace I implore you to take action other than annihilation.
I admit that our group has been tainted but do you not agree that even the most far gone man has the ability of turning back?
RE: [Unofficial] Blackwatch Corporation - cnr - 10-14-2013
(OOC)
I'm gonna be honest here and say the clan was gonna be shut down eventually. Roach has become so inactive that the clan can't be controlled & there are no high ranks on anymore since I left & other high ranks are busy or w/e and the clan was just going down the shitter with the new people in the clan taking over mtl & shooting anyone who looks at the place. This has been happening for a while now but it's gotten so out of hand I think it may be better to close the clan or reform the whole thing. But, as a member of the clan I do think we deserve a second chance to atleast TRY to make the clan better.
RE: [Unofficial] Blackwatch Corporation - Barkles - 10-14-2013
(10-14-2013, 03:10 PM)Spyderr Wrote: (OOC)
I'm gonna be honest here and say the clan was gonna be shut down eventually. Roach has become so inactive that the clan can't be controlled & there are no high ranks on anymore since I left & other high ranks are busy or w/e and the clan was just going down the shitter with the new people in the clan taking over mtl & shooting anyone who looks at the place. This has been happening for a while now but it's gotten so out of hand I think it may be better to close the clan or reform the whole thing. But, as a member of the clan I do think we deserve a second chance to atleast TRY to make the clan better.
OOC
may I clarify I am most days however no one else is or they cant be F**Ked to listen to my commands.
RE: [Unofficial] Blackwatch Corporation - D0ctor - 10-14-2013
OOC
Ok you want simple? I'll give you it simple, your the minge clan. Everybody knows it, you guys protect contraband, RDM, CDM, have no leaders capable of managing a McDonald's restaurant let alone a clan of 20+ members as quite clearly shown here:
Quote:I am most days however no one else is or they cant be F**Ked to listen to my commands.Hmm suggestion... Kick them?
RE: [Unofficial] Blackwatch Corporation - Barkles - 10-14-2013
Point, but currently the higher command team have more pressing issues to deal with
Plus, not being rude but everyone wats till now to say. I've said it before and I'll say it again, we are not 12 year olds managing it we can take critism.
But thanks professional it is noted
RE: [Unofficial] Blackwatch Corporation - The Odd Guest - 10-14-2013
(10-14-2013, 07:45 PM)Professional_instinct Wrote: OOC
Ok you want simple? I'll give you it simple, your the minge clan. Everybody knows it, you guys protect contraband, RDM, CDM, have no leaders capable of managing a McDonald's restaurant let alone a clan of 20+ members as quite clearly shown here:Quote:I am most days however no one else is or they cant be F**Ked to listen to my commands.Hmm suggestion... Kick them?
Ideas of grandeur have surely addled the minds of lesser minded clan members.
We are not all the savages as seen in your eyes, people like dr barkles, Spyderr, Megascotty,Roach and others serve as diligent, sophisticated individuals.
please understand that something had been created that had gotten out of the control of it's individuals! We admit to our faults and understand that there is a massive problem with Blackwatch.
But please, do not try to simplify what we already know, do not belittle us by telling us what 'everybody knows' as we ourselves have accepted what has become of us. We know our future and we know our cause, the end is in sight and we are not fighting it. There is no need to add insult to injury.
This is not an original idea, the ministry of peace has made our predicament clear.If you are so knowledgeable in our circumstance, you would hence respectfully retain your silence as the final process of our clan draws to an end.
RE: [Unofficial] Blackwatch Corporation - DooZâ„¢ - 10-18-2013
OOC Information
Steam Name: gamerdouble / thedoozguy
Steam ID: STEAM_0:0:61032702
VAC Banned: Never
Bans on record: (Don't lie we will check.) 7, but all mistakes I made, and wasan't on purpose.
Real Age: 14
Do you have one of these weapons?
M4A1: Yes.
AK-47: Yes.
FAMAS: No, but can get it if needed.
AWP: Yes, can get more if needed.
MP5: Yes.
IC Information
Name: Jake 'Angels' Smith
Age: 25
Weight: 58 pounds
Address: Laurel, MD(Maryland) 20724-1922
How long have you been in EvoCity(Hours): 155h
How did you hear about us: A friend, Definitly not .#Dolbaeb
Height: '5.5 foot tall
Reason for wanting to join: I want to fight and neutralize the enemy, since I was a kid I always had this rush on me wanting to kill pepole, now I think It's the right time to start it!
Benefits you could bring to Blackwatch: I am very acurate, I was the best at school with the slingshot.
Motives for wanting to join initially: Want to keep the heat going inside me!
Ex-military: (Yes or No, if yes state what corp or batallion and in what army.) No.
Disclaimer: Whilst on duty you could be seriously injured and/or killed, you must accept full responsibility for your actions and the lives of other members in your squad. Also, any items you lost during battle may not be refunded and you are required to donate some things to the cause. If you break any rules during your time here you will be exiled and not be allowed to rejoin. We will not take responsibility for you actions outside of the clan, and will not have you slander Blackwatch as a clan. We will store your name, SteamID and age on the BlackNET database but that will not be given to third-parties and will be purely for the use of Blackwatch Higher Command. Do you accept?
Signed: Name here Jake Smith