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RE: De-accept the third person suggestion - Smex - 12-02-2014
(12-02-2014, 06:43 PM)Bowie R. Wrote: I love that the idea got approved. Indeed if this is a bug as said it's even more acceptable.If its more of a buggy feature then surely its just like a bug report, the community doesn't get a +/- support option on bug reports do they? This is exact same situation part from the fact it is a long term feature that is constantly abused.
Now here is what I don't get.
If the bug has been here since third person was added then it must not have been that important to be fixed. Now as Jan said 50% of the community disagree that this should be in the server so why not just keep what we have?
As in other suggestions that has five-ten sites of positive supports aren't even getting complemented on by neither Temar, Doom or Soulripper ( You three mostly accept to denies suggestions ). This really looks cheesy. To me it looks like the community has no vote in this after all and the staff members have a bigger vote than the rest of the community.
Now why am I complaining because I actually like the idea? Because what happened there had nothing to do with democracy. That just kills the purpose of us -/+ supporting the suggestions..
Please explain :/
RE: De-accept the third person suggestion - Bowiii - 12-02-2014
(12-02-2014, 06:52 PM)Smex Wrote:(12-02-2014, 06:43 PM)Bowie R. Wrote: I love that the idea got approved. Indeed if this is a bug as said it's even more acceptable.If its more of a buggy feature then surely its just like a bug report, the community doesn't get a +/- support option on bug reports do they? This is exact same situation part from the fact it is a long term feature that is constantly abused.
Now here is what I don't get.
If the bug has been here since third person was added then it must not have been that important to be fixed. Now as Jan said 50% of the community disagree that this should be in the server so why not just keep what we have?
As in other suggestions that has five-ten sites of positive supports aren't even getting complemented on by neither Temar, Doom or Soulripper ( You three mostly accept to denies suggestions ). This really looks cheesy. To me it looks like the community has no vote in this after all and the staff members have a bigger vote than the rest of the community.
Now why am I complaining because I actually like the idea? Because what happened there had nothing to do with democracy. That just kills the purpose of us -/+ supporting the suggestions..
Please explain :/
Why not say that in the suggestion? Why not move it to bugs? Why did Temar not actually say that instead of just accepting it like a normal suggestion? That's what I don't get.
It really means something because as it is right now it's in the approved section as a suggestion that has been approved.
If this was like a bug report. Then please tell us that.
RE: De-accept the third person suggestion - Baskingner - 12-02-2014
(12-02-2014, 06:52 PM)Smex Wrote:(12-02-2014, 06:43 PM)Bowie R. Wrote: I love that the idea got approved. Indeed if this is a bug as said it's even more acceptable.If its more of a buggy feature then surely its just like a bug report, the community doesn't get a +/- support option on bug reports do they? This is exact same situation part from the fact it is a long term feature that is constantly abused.
Now here is what I don't get.
If the bug has been here since third person was added then it must not have been that important to be fixed. Now as Jan said 50% of the community disagree that this should be in the server so why not just keep what we have?
As in other suggestions that has five-ten sites of positive supports aren't even getting complemented on by neither Temar, Doom or Soulripper ( You three mostly accept to denies suggestions ). This really looks cheesy. To me it looks like the community has no vote in this after all and the staff members have a bigger vote than the rest of the community.
Now why am I complaining because I actually like the idea? Because what happened there had nothing to do with democracy. That just kills the purpose of us -/+ supporting the suggestions..
Please explain :/
And did you notice that this "obvious bug" hasnt been reported for over 5 years? Maybe a very large majority doesnt experience this "phenomenan" as a bug.
RE: De-accept the third person suggestion - General Rickets - 12-02-2014
I've said it once and I'll say it again. People abuse third person to look around corners and over props when in raids. This is why it NEEDS to be removed.
RE: De-accept the third person suggestion - Temar - 12-02-2014
These issues have been known for a long time, and widely ignored
but fact is 3rd person gives unfair advantages in several ways during gun fights
RE: De-accept the third person suggestion - Jan - 12-02-2014
(12-02-2014, 07:40 PM)Temar Wrote: These issues have been known for a long time, and widely ignored
but fact is 3rd person gives unfair advantages in several ways during gun fights
No, it's not a fact, it's your opinion. If you attack that's a risk you're taking, in other games where you have first and third person it works the exact same way as it works here, on Fearless.
Just because you and some others think it should be removed doesn't give you the right to close a thread without discussing anything at all.
RE: De-accept the third person suggestion - General Rickets - 12-02-2014
If people didn't abuse it to such an extent it might warrant more discussion however as it stands it is major improvement to remove it.
RE: De-accept the third person suggestion - Jan - 12-02-2014
(12-02-2014, 08:10 PM)General Rickets Wrote: If people didn't abuse it to such an extent it might warrant more discussion however as it stands it is major improvement to remove it.
And then what? It has been proven the recoil isn't much differend in third person. If you decide to remove the third person view when holding a weapon people would just unequip the weapon and have a look in third person view, it just doesn't make sense to remove a feature so many people love.
And let's face it, around 80% of all Fearless players only use third person.
RE: De-accept the third person suggestion - Burnett - 12-02-2014
(12-02-2014, 04:13 PM)DoomDude1 Wrote: To be fair, the third person accuracy with weapons isn't a feature, it's a bug.
The recoil and effects of the weapon you are firing in third person don't affect you at all. If you take an automatic rifle and empty a magazine while aiming down the sights in a single burst, you won't be able to see anything due to the muzzle flash and recoil on your screen. In third person it's not there, allowing for sustained fire with no drawbacks.
^This
RE: De-accept the third person suggestion - General Rickets - 12-02-2014
(12-02-2014, 08:13 PM)Jan Wrote:(12-02-2014, 08:10 PM)General Rickets Wrote: If people didn't abuse it to such an extent it might warrant more discussion however as it stands it is major improvement to remove it.
And then what? It has been proven the recoil isn't much differend in third person. If you decide to remove the third person view when holding a weapon people would just unequip the weapon and have a look in third person view, it just doesn't make sense to remove a feature so many people love.
And let's face it, around 80% of all Fearless players only use third person.
I don't think you understood what I said. The bug doesn't bother me, I raid in first person. I only care about people abusing third person t look around corners and over props as I've just said. It gives a ridiculous advantage which is extremely unrealistic.